How often do you go to church?Follow

Agreed, I'm not for the Fire and Brimstone approach. I only bring up the eternity of misery aspect because it's an issue that can't really be steered around when we're on the topic.

I was more or less saying some people question, some people don't. I didn't specifically say anything about the bible, faith, the Qu'ran or any other religious document. Some people just don't much care for a specter on their back like a force of nature.

I like to have it both ways, I like the idea of a god but I like the idea more that there is a god and he just doesn't care.

I'm with ya there, except I don't believe He "doesn't care." I just believe He has absolutely nothing to do with this planet anymore.

I mean, logically, if you're an omnipotent being with infinite power.. what else do you have to do with your time other than create civilizations and see how it plays out. Trying to perfect it.

You stop hearing about the miracles of God after Jesus was born, such as the hand writing on the wall in the Tower of Babbal (sp?) story.. and it was no longer required to worship Him directly, in fact, He said to go through Jesus. My theory is that He's now the one that presides over us.. and that God Himself is off somewhere, watching over a new civilization that hasn't yet become a complete failure.

It's kind of out there, I know, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me when I think about it.

It was like an acid trip. A good one, but I never had the sense that anything mystical was happening, just that my brain was dieing and sort of spasming. I saw the light, it was powerful, but it wasn't God. It was massive simultaneous cell-death occuring in my brain.

Well as my father told me long ago when I started to doubt religion and asked him about it "Son they don't call it faith for nothing" so yeah its all about faith. If your really hardcore religious your faith in god is all you need to go by and nothing else.

Wow, you really love Vonnegut don't you?

I heard a interview when I was like 8 and I'm pretty sure that was 90% exact on.

I go on occassion. More often now that Joph Jr is going to Sunday school.

Although I agree that one doesn't need to go to church to commune with God, I also feel that there's a certain something to be said about making the effort if you're doing it for sincere reasons.

Belkira just said Bikini bottoms and Kaain didn't acknowledge it, what's all that about?

Maybe the bible is right, and this is End Times?

(Do you put "the" in front of "end times," or is it considered a proper noun in and of itself?)

Ahahahaha Kaain ur so dum

Don't get me wrong, Kaain, I still think you're a total moron. Hold on, there's really no way you thought otherwise, is there? Oh, well nevermind, what was I saying?

Oh yeah. Suggesting that God made civilization and religion is dangerous. "Why's that", You ask? Well let me tell you, my moderately etarded little friend!

There are many different religions and civilizations.

By suggesting that God played a part in creating one or any of them you suggest there is only one true, chosen, God-born civilization or religion. That makes it really easy to destroy folks who live and/or believe differently then you, because your club has God's blessing. It's pretty much the most fundamental ethos of any fanatic, you twit.

Now frankly, I'm not sure if this is actually what you meant, or if you're just so bad with words that expressing yourself is really this difficult, but either way, you're clueless and my God would rape your God, big time.