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#1 Jan 04 2006 at 7:11 PM Rating: Default
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To all of Sylph,

Im going to give this one shot and hope this isn't meet with to much flaming. But this is sylph so I will still try.

I am Crazypluto, I have been the leader of BlackRoses for a 1yr now and still am leader. Yes I was caught speed hacking, I will tell you, it was never worth it. The loss of my long time chars was something to feel really down about. I never thought of how much I would miss my linkshell and **** even some of the bashing we get. /smile. But honestly the "Hacks" that myself or even some of the members never could give us "Inviciblitly or the Abilty to kill things in one Shot" or have been the edge needed to win anything. Only hack that myself used could only help you run threw zones faster, not saying it was now worth being able to run to a zone faster then others. I have learned my lesson and will not hack again and others that have been caught understand it was not worth it. Also for those that do hack understand you will be caught sometime. Trust me losing access to your chars suck, if you truly love this game.

The million dollar question is "Did CP's Account get Banned?" Well that I will leave to the masses. Draw your own opionons and what not. But understand I am still leader of Blackroses with a council of officers that decide all that we do. Im not by no means a tyrant and do appriecate all my linkshell members for following me and standing next to me and truly knowning what Myself "CP" is all about.

Finaly if you can be please be civil under this thread. And for everyone trying to break BlackRoses by bashing us consantly brings us closer together as a family. Just a small question for you all. If your family was having certain issues would you be so quick to ditch them? Most families would stay with eachother threw think and thin. Myself and others in BlackRoses will always stand firm and continue to have fun and do great things.




Reformed Leader of BlackRoses,
Crazypluto

P.S Yes Sylph , I am Sorry. Please Accept Apology.


Edited, Wed Jan 4 19:21:05 2006 by crazypluto
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#2 Jan 04 2006 at 7:16 PM Rating: Default
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#3CarverSylph, Posted: Jan 04 2006 at 7:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) takes a lot of juevos to come out and make a clarification like that.
#4 Jan 04 2006 at 7:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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What? No apology?

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#5 Jan 04 2006 at 7:18 PM Rating: Default
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I for one hope this ends some of the things being said these days, about BR. As Crazypluto said, we are a family, and we do stick together. We work hard to be where we are and harder still to get where we want to be. Have fun in all you do.

Edited, Wed Jan 4 19:19:15 2006 by Aircrow

Edited, Wed Jan 4 19:19:39 2006 by Aircrow
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#6 Jan 04 2006 at 7:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't worry about it CP. The real members of BR know what we're about and what we stand for, and we're BR for life. We will be the most powerful NA linkshell on this server soon, and it won't matter what they think.

Keep your head up CP, and everyone else needs to remember that this is a game.
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#7 Jan 04 2006 at 7:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not trying to start a flame thread or w/e but whats the point of this thread?
You are telling us you got banned and are still in game? Because we already know this. We already know that you now play the character of Jrcrazyp. Unfortunatly for you you have dragged your own name through the dirt and your Linkshell aswell.
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#8 Jan 04 2006 at 7:26 PM Rating: Good
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"Carver" wrote:
takes a lot of juevos to come out and make a clarification like that.

/cry, /salute



Says the person that was suspended for 72 hours for speed hacking.

Basically everyone knows that CP's account got banned.

As for learning your lesson, I guess time will have to tell.

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Fix'd.

Edited, Wed Jan 4 19:34:29 2006 by buddweiser

Edited, Wed Jan 4 19:35:08 2006 by buddweiser
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#9 Jan 04 2006 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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"Keep your head up CP, and everyone else needs to remember that this is a game."

A game? If its a game why do you need to hack to get what you want? Can't you just work hard like other more respectable LS? Do you really need to MPK other people who are just having a good time enjoying the recreational aspect of the game? Honestly now, lets be serious.
#10 Jan 04 2006 at 7:48 PM Rating: Good
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It's nice to see an apology, it get's worse if you say you only used stuff to run faster and we see a picture of you standing over Behemoth's dominion as if you are God... Get's even worse if you get your partner in crime to come in and call it guts to do this.
You're an inch away from creating a sockpuppet and hold conversations with yourself.

Dunno... Guess it's just me but after your previous posts about this topic I can't really take this too seriously.
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#11 Jan 04 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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In FFXI, as well as other MMORPG I'd imagine, there are certain things that earn you a "scarlet letter". These include:

-Botting
-Buying currency
-Assisting RMT
-MPK and other grief tactics

Now, for the most part these are all things that are not specific rules. They cannot be monitored easily, and require integrity from the players who enjoy the game. These are things that are required of the people who control the charachter, not the GM or other authority figures.

Now, Crazypluto says that he never used any hacks to make it easier to kill HNM, or to claim them. But how can we trust the word of someone who has been caught hacking? With his integrity now questionable, can we really believe that you would stop with teleport hacks, and not use tools to help you claim or kill mobs easier? Personally, I do not believe you. I don't see why you would stop at small time things, when you could have it all. What is the difference in temptation, where do you draw the line?

I don't know about everyone, but I personally cannot trust his word. I can appreciate his remorse about the loss of his charachter as a result of his own actions, but here is the real issue: Would you really be so full of remorse and sadness had you not been caught? My gut instinct says no.

And for those who are saying that you are sticking by your leader and your LS, good for you. But know that guilt by association is a very real thing, and just like the family of a man who beats his wife, when word gets out, you aren't known as the Jenkins, but as the family who is beaten by their father. It is a sad reality to accept, but reality nonetheless.

While I can say that there are some very kind people in BR, the sad fact of the matter is that the evils that have come into play far outweigh the good in the LS. People do their best to have a good image of themselves, not for their own ego, but because they have a true desire to do right by people. Actions like this are selfish and do more harm to the peopel involved than good.

From now on, every accomplishment that BR does will be called into question. And sure, some of you may not care about it, because **** at the end of the day you are after items and for people to /check you and say "Wow!".

But I have a question for you:

Where is the feeling of accomplishment that comes from defeating something honestly? Where is your memory of victory on terms not set forth by yourself or your friends? Where is your integrity, your pride, your own moral sense of being?

Cheating gives you an empty sense of achievement. You may have the items or title to show for it, but they are nothing when measured up against honest players.

I'd suggest to the honest members of BR to walk with your reputation still intact, but I know that you won't. I admire your constitution, but know that from this point on, you are digging your own grave, which has been started by Crazypluto.
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#12 Jan 04 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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dont really know what you expect to get from this post other than to say that your account was banned. BR hasnt had a great rep from other posts and accused hnm steal (true or not idk) but if the Leader of a recognized LS admits to "only using speed hacks". thats like saying i smoke weed but dont inhale, does that make it any better?.

Personally i see this as a permanent smear on the BR rep wether you apologize or not means nothing.

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#13 Jan 04 2006 at 8:46 PM Rating: Default
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To Quote Crazy Pluto:
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But honestly the "Hacks" that myself or even some of the members never could give us "Inviciblitly or the Abilty to kill things in one Shot" or have been the edge needed to win anything. Only hack that myself used


So you are saying that you cheated, AND you KNEW that some of your members cheated? LOLZ LOLZ LOLZ, Blackroses is teh cheatzorz!
#14 Jan 04 2006 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Blackroses is teh cheatzorz


I believe the phrase is now:

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#15 Jan 04 2006 at 11:36 PM Rating: Default
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Here's an idea:

Stop giving a f*ck about other people's LS's and just worry about your own thing for awhile. So what CP cheated? Does it effect any of you? (Counterpoint: "omg yes he got claim on xxx mob that our LS was camping! He might have claimed it by cheating!" So what? It's not as if the mob won't repop again another day. Move on)

Why the **** are people in this **** game so utterly concerned with what other people are doing? Just worry about yourselves, and stop constantly attacking each other and -maybe- Sylph wouldn't be such a sh*thole.

As long as anything BR or any other LS is doing doesn't directly effect you or your enjoyment of the game, then who gives a sh*t? Move on, play the game to have fun, not to sit around and thrash on each other all day.

Seriously, many of us graduated from high school years ago, and don't want to pay $15 a month to act like we're back in it.

While yea, it sucks that CP may very well have been banned for Hacking-who cares? Does it effect you? No. He was punished, that should be the end of it there. Move on, stop giving a **** about what -other- people are doing. Ya'll may hate on BR, but they've been together a **** long time, and like it or not, that says something good about their friendship structure. So who cares what keeps them together. They're happy, it's none of anyone else's damned business.

People in this game think it's their SE-given right to trash others, and obsess over what other people are doing in the game, and you know what? It's not. Grow up, mind your own damned business, and move the f*ck on with yourselves.

You all act like CrazyPluto and BlackRoses are the worst thing ever, when quite frankly, everyone else obsessing over them is just as bad, if not worse. You all should be more mature than this. I'm not defending his alleged cheating. Quite frankly, I could care less if he did or didn't hack, and if his account was or was not banned. Why? It's not really my business or my concern. I don't know him, I never partied with him, he never stole anything from me, so I don't care.

Mind your own business. Everyone who pays to play this game has a right to enjoy it, and as long as they don't break the rules, they can do what they please. If they do break the rules, then they get banned, life goes on. Either way, it's no one's concern.

Edited, Wed Jan 4 23:41:38 2006 by Shotie
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#16 Jan 04 2006 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
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actually, no. Who cares if it pops the next day? You spent 2 hours camping for something to pop so some cheater claims it while they are watching tv? Oh good, we can wait another day for it to pop, just so they can do it again.

And if they beat something by cheating, they get recognition for beating something that would be much much harder for someone else to beat. That kinda lessens your achievement.

Not caring about other people is complete bs. Go play a single player game, this is what mmo is all about: playing with other people, good or bad.

as for cp, im glad you apologized. This post should have been posted a bit earlier though.

edit: by the way, the examples i posted earlier isnt meant at what br has done. Just general cheating

Edited, Thu Jan 5 00:01:11 2006 by dinary

Edited, Thu Jan 5 00:01:26 2006 by dinary
#17 Jan 05 2006 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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qwooo

Edited, Thu Jan 5 00:17:39 2006 by octobeast
#18 Jan 05 2006 at 12:22 AM Rating: Default
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Shotie, how do you have time to troll these forums with ping beating you so you log off of wow everyday when he comes home from work?

you dont play this game anymore, dont come on the forums.

you used to freak out over **** 24/7... you say its just a game, but who ******* cried irl when stuff didnt go your way?

Oh, and you may have graduated from high school, but you're mooching off of ping.. if he dumped your *** tomorrow, you'd be back in the trailer park suckin Di*k for cash.

hacking affects all of us because it gives them an unfair advantage, simple as that.

one last thing, cp isnt the worst thing ever, you are. stay off our forums and go play wow, unless they're hating the **** out of you like all of sylph does.

thank you, and good day
#19GregoryPeck, Posted: Jan 05 2006 at 12:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Holy ****** I was laughin my **** off. This is far worse than I'd do, you raise the bar on me my brother. Cheers mate! Next round is on me! I reckon she wouldn't be rogering blokes for cash, though...likely gil or gold.
#20 Jan 05 2006 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Shotie wrote:
Stop giving a f*ck about other people's LS's and just worry about your own thing for awhile. So what CP cheated? Does it effect any of you?
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As long as anything BR or any other LS is doing doesn't directly effect you or your enjoyment of the game, then who gives a sh*t? <snip>
While yea, it sucks that CP may very well have been banned for Hacking-who cares? Does it effect you? No. He was punished, that should be the end of it there.
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Quite frankly, I could care less if he did or didn't hack, and if his account was or was not banned. Why? It's not really my business or my concern. I don't know him, I never partied with him, he never stole anything from me, so I don't care.
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Mind your own business.


Kinda reminds me of this, albeit on an entirely different scale...

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and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew....


Hey! If the hacking doesn't affect me, then it must be okay!

It's a slippery slope. People need to care about cheating -- whether it's cheating in this LS or another LS or wherever. If it's condoned by the leader of a well known linkshell, then where else?

When did it become okay to cheat in a game with an online community so long as it doesn't affect you?

It's still wrong. It will always be wrong. It's wrong, it's pathetic, it's disgusting, and it does in fact affect us all, because it spreads.

My question is... if Carver got a tempban for hacking, then how many times did CP have to get caught before getting his account banned? Was he only "sorry" for what he did after the last time, when he actually lost something?
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#21 Jan 05 2006 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I love how idiots like Lavaroach try to talk like big men but hide behind a sock puppet character and don't post their in game name. Coward.
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#22 Jan 05 2006 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
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Its good to see some people show there true face's. I dont know any of you. I dont truely care what you do... **** I used a fish bot back in the day. Stoped because it COMPLETLY RUINED my gameing EXPERIENCE. IAt first i thought it was cool that it would fish on its own.. Then after watching it like tv for maney hours it occured to me. If i have ot auto mate a process in a game it must not be something I enjoy doing. **** i used the choco tool thing once or twice (it was really three times..) I just did it to see... **** curiosity. Also used the flee tool like 3-4 times. Tryed the teleport tool twice and it freaked me out way to much.. Somthing about flying through a zone made me think twice about ever useing it again... I dont use any tool's, script's or bot's. Not even a windower. It's not because I have been warned once or have been causght. Its because I find it pointless.

I dont understand defending what he's done.
Guilty conscience ways heavy... I never tryed to justify what I was doing. I knew it was wrong. I know it gave me an unfair advantage over other players. To try and reason that is ignorent. Saying it doesnt affect others is close minded. How is being able to flee to one spawn to another not affect other's camping it. Some fool said so what it will spawn again... Yea so what it will spawn again, you lower yourselves to useing a cheating tool to beat someone to something in a video game. The other reason its not inteligent to defend a hacking tool is its a hacking tool.. If it was a simple bot that was not altering the game memory, it is delt with a temporary ban unless you allready have a strike on your account.
If it's a hacking tool such as argus,flee,choco and all that other wacked out reverse enginered japeneese hacking tools.

If sylph is a **** hole migrate. Im sure that there will be another migration in the near future, why not go there if sylph is so so bad. Mabey there isnt drama on any other server. Oh wait its a mmorpg, where a bunch of people from young teens to 50+++++ play a game together. Wait most of them are anti social and cling to there online lives. You obviously like the drama if your in it so much. There are hundred's of people on sylph who arent allways up in the drama. Mabey you require a slight bit of drama so your not bored, i dunno id have to diagnose you in person. So please if sylph suck's so much migrate, or make a new charecter on a diffrent server and reside there. **** i have afew friends who decided sylph wasnt there cup of tea and made new toons or moved. Its simple, its new and its an aventure which this game was all about when i first started.
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#23 Jan 05 2006 at 1:25 AM Rating: Default
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Here's an idea:

Stop giving a f*ck about other people's LS's and just worry about your own thing for awhile. So what CP cheated? Does it effect any of you? (Counterpoint: "omg yes he got claim on xxx mob that our LS was camping! He might have claimed it by cheating!" So what? It's not as if the mob won't repop again another day. Move on)

Why the **** are people in this **** game so utterly concerned with what other people are doing? Just worry about yourselves, and stop constantly attacking each other and -maybe- Sylph wouldn't be such a sh*thole.

As long as anything BR or any other LS is doing doesn't directly effect you or your enjoyment of the game, then who gives a sh*t? Move on, play the game to have fun, not to sit around and thrash on each other all day.

Seriously, many of us graduated from high school years ago, and don't want to pay $15 a month to act like we're back in it.

While yea, it sucks that CP may very well have been banned for Hacking-who cares? Does it effect you? No. He was punished, that should be the end of it there. Move on, stop giving a **** about what -other- people are doing. Ya'll may hate on BR, but they've been together a **** long time, and like it or not, that says something good about their friendship structure. So who cares what keeps them together. They're happy, it's none of anyone else's damned business.

People in this game think it's their SE-given right to trash others, and obsess over what other people are doing in the game, and you know what? It's not. Grow up, mind your own damned business, and move the f*ck on with yourselves.

You all act like CrazyPluto and BlackRoses are the worst thing ever, when quite frankly, everyone else obsessing over them is just as bad, if not worse. You all should be more mature than this. I'm not defending his alleged cheating. Quite frankly, I could care less if he did or didn't hack, and if his account was or was not banned. Why? It's not really my business or my concern. I don't know him, I never partied with him, he never stole anything from me, so I don't care.

Mind your own business. Everyone who pays to play this game has a right to enjoy it, and as long as they don't break the rules, they can do what they please. If they do break the rules, then they get banned, life goes on. Either way, it's no one's concern.





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#24 Jan 05 2006 at 1:28 AM Rating: Default
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Seriously, many of us graduated from high school years ago, and don't want to pay $15 a month to act like we're back in it.


So thats why you don't pay the 15$ anymore and act like it for free?

Just trying to understand where your comeing from with all this..
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#26 Jan 05 2006 at 1:53 AM Rating: Decent
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lol u really hacked? i always thought poeple was making stuff up. well i guess its kinda good since GM actully do somthing...
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