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#1 Feb 13 2011 at 7:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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What are you listening to right now? Smiley: grin






But in all seriousness, instead of waiting for music to be added to the forum name I thougt I'd make a music discussion thread that (hopefully) goes well beyond the average and fairly uninteresting youtube link spam.
What I'd like to know is what kinds of music you listen to and why? What do you look for in music?

Personally I listen mostly to metal, (classic) rock and prog with some pop and classical added in left and right.
I also tend to gravitate towards older music, looking through my collection over half of the albums I own are older than I am.
The most important thing I look for though is a certain raw quality of the music, either through vocals (not necessarily grunts, Layne Staley, Kurt Cobain, Johnny Cash, JJ Cale etc are also amazing) or a good guitar/bass/drums. I think that a large part of why I generally prefer older music is that it's not overproduced, with just about everything I hear from radio or such there seem to be so much producing being done that there's just no life left in the music.
I would say that I also prefer relatively simple music but with Camel, Yes, Genesis, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd and more prog in my collection I don't think that still goes.

Oh yeah and I pretty much hate electronic beeps, same issue as the overproduced commercial crap, there's just no life in the music anymore.
#2 Feb 13 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Aethien wrote:
Intelligent Music Discussion.

Allegory wrote:
Anime Music Recommendations?

I see how it is >:[
#3 Feb 14 2011 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Aethien wrote:
Intelligent Music Discussion.

Allegory wrote:
Anime Music Recommendations?

I see how it is >:[


I can't help but remember that South Park anime episode, where the theme song was "Let's Fighting Love." Smiley: grin



Semi-on topic:

I'm in a real music slump lately. I know everyone always says this, but moreso than ever I feel as if there's nothing new out there that appeals to me. There's a real 80's revival thing (see: The Killers, Arcade Fire, etc.) going on lately that's been completely drowning out all other styles. Even stations that traditionally play hard rock/heavy metal have been devoting a ton of airtime to such bands. It's just not my thing. At all.

I find myself just patiently waiting for HURT to release something new.

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 12:50pm by Eske
#4 Feb 14 2011 at 12:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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I always suggest Alestorm in threads like this.
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#5 Feb 14 2011 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I will listen to pretty much anything, really. I'm currently listening to a bit of downtempo and acid jazz, but most types of music have something to offer for me.

If I had to pick one album to have with me on a deserted island, it'd be Kind of Blue.
#6 Feb 14 2011 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
I <3 the Decembrists. Their new CD is good. The Hazards of Love is my most favorite, though.

#7 Feb 14 2011 at 2:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Decemberists are awesome, though I'm not sure I agree with Belk on favorite Album. Picaresque is probably my favorite, though The Crane Wife is a close second.
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#8 Feb 14 2011 at 3:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Decemberists are awesome, though I'm not sure I agree with Belk on favorite Album.


Close enough, so I still love you.

And "Oh Valencia" and "Yankee Bayonet" are two of my most favoritest songs ever. I think I just like "The Hazards of Love" so much because it's a big long fairy tale. And "The Rake" is freaking awesome. As are any song that has the "Queen."
#9 Feb 14 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd say vocals matter the most to me, but I also like looking for interesting/awesome bass lines.

I've drifted away from metal/rock into a more pop-rock and alternative genre.

I used to listen to Avenged Sevenfold, System of a Down, Ozzy Osbourne, Lacuna Coil, etc.
Now I listen to stuff like Stereopony, One Ok Rock, YUI, Rise Against, Nirvana, Paramore and Silversun Pickups.

No Surprise, I tend to listen to Japanese pop-rock because:
1) I don't understand most of what's said, so I can listen to the song as if the vocals were just an instrument.
2) They seem to emphasize little/non-existent vocal editing, so tend to sound a lot better live (not that I've ever been to a concert).
I dunno, just feels like I can appreciate the music more when the vocalist has a naturally good voice.

I still like me some lyrics I can understand, so I also like most Rock that I hear. I just can't stand Country music.
I don't go out of my way to listen to Hip-hop/Rap, but I think some of it is cool.
Jazz isn't really my thing, I tend not to be in the mood for it.

If people link me songs, I listen to it. More often than not, I like them, so I have a pretty broad taste in music.
I just tend to be specific when I'm looking for music myself.

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 2:40pm by Kirby
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#10 Feb 14 2011 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been listening to a lot of electronic music for the last while, but I really like a bit of everything.

I don't look for anything in the music specifically, just something that sounds good to me. I listen to a lot of different bands a lot. Radiohead, Grizzly Bear, Peter Bjorn and John, Anoraak, Death Cab For Cutie, and Explosions In The Sky are some of my favourites.


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The Decemberists are awesome, though I'm not sure I agree with Belk on favorite Album. Picaresque is probably my favorite, though The Crane Wife is a close second.


I like Castaways and Cutouts, though Picaresque is a close second.

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#11 Feb 14 2011 at 6:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Personally, I listen to just about any kind of music. I have personal preferences, though, which are usually varying kinds of rock/metal. Much like Kirby, I listen to and like just about anything my friends link me, but I won't generally bother to look it up for myself.

The deciding factor of liking a specific artist/band is the ability to give a good live performance. I too, dislike overproduced music. It's not interesting whatsoever and does, as stated, indeed take the life out of music. Lyrics alone don't make a song. With that, nothing impresses me more than a good live performance. Especially in the current age of the internets, it's pretty easy to use Youtube and see just how well an act performs.

There's that, and I like to go out and see live concerts myself when the wallet allows. I've had the pleasure of watching Metallica, Live, Pendulum, Slipknot, Korn, R.E.M., Caro Emerald, The Cranberries, and also the Moody Blues more recently. While this may not appeal to all, I consider it to be great experiences. (I just need to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers live and I can say I truly lived!)

Edit: China wanted their wall back.

Edited, Feb 14th 2011 7:08pm by BlackyLakshmi
#12 Feb 14 2011 at 10:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I <3 the Decembrists. Their new CD is good. The Hazards of Love is my most favorite, though.


That isn't one of the three albums I have. I shall seek it out.
#13 Feb 15 2011 at 6:59 AM Rating: Excellent
for music that is on my iPod I have:
Link Park's newest album, their Reanimation Album, their Piano version of Minutes to Midnight.
Radio Head's discography.
Muse's discography.
Some Cold Play.
Glitch Mobs's album.
And then a ton of Dubstep.

I like rock music, it was blasted (not really) into my head at a young age via my parents. In today's world it is called Classic/Soft Rock.
I also like today's "rock".
Then this other part of me likes techno/electronic music.

And when their powers combine!!..



Edited, Feb 15th 2011 6:59am by Sandinmygum
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#14 Feb 17 2011 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
Nothing says intelligent discussion like a long list, so here's one of the last 20 bands/acts I listened to:

Radiohead
Elvis Costello
The Libertines
Babyshambles
Interpol
The Long Blondes
Kamelot
Kylesa
Ensiferum
Metallica
Buckethead
Joren de Bruin
The Futureheads
Arcade Fire
Future of the Left
Nine Inch Nails
The Birthday Massacre
Muse
Gnarls Barkley
Gorillaz

If I weren't such an unflinchingly honest person, I might have omitted one or two items there.

Belkira wrote:
I <3 the Decembrists. Their new CD is good. The Hazards of Love is my most favorite, though.


It transcends the grammatical.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 6:39pm by Kavekk
#15 Feb 17 2011 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose the key element that links song sI like is the ability I have to imagine a story for that song--and how interesting that story is.
#16 Feb 17 2011 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
Does having a scene or whatever you associate with the song help, then? Is that part of why you like anime music?
#17 Feb 17 2011 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
Kavekk wrote:
Belkira wrote:
I <3 the Decembrists. Their new CD is good. The Hazards of Love is my most favorite, though.


It transcends the grammatical.


Smiley: nod

Allegory wrote:
I suppose the key element that links song sI like is the ability I have to imagine a story for that song--and how interesting that story is.


The Hazards of Love is one long story. Smiley: nod Listen to it. Love it.
#18 Feb 17 2011 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk wrote:
Does having a scene or whatever you associate with the song help, then? Is that part of why you like anime music?
I find there are songs that I like more simply because I like the video attached to it (this isn't limited to just anime music).


As far as regular music, I listen to just about everything except most rap. I like my music to be musical and to me, this is something a lot of rap fails to accomplish. I have a lot of classic rock music and some stuff from the 90s, but I'd like to try and listen to more newer stuff. Unfortunately, this isn't always easy when I already have thousands of songs to listen to instead of the radio.

Just a short list of what I listen to on a regular basis:

AC/DC
Lynard Skynard
Dave Matthews
Rise Against
The Pines
Nirvana
The Band
Johnny Cash
Goo Goo Dolls
Matchbox 20
Pearl Jam
Special Consensus
Led Zeppelin
Marilyn Manson
Black Eyed Peas
Foo Fighters
Smashing Pumpkins
The Offspring

A very large variety of genres...

I'm finding out there is no such thing as a short list of music.

Edited, Feb 17th 2011 5:32pm by xypin
#19 Feb 18 2011 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
Does having a scene or whatever you associate with the song help, then? Is that part of why you like anime music?

It does. The story I create isn't necessarily related to that of the anime I found the song in though. When I hear The Girl in Byakkoya (or the instrumental Meditational Field) I don't picture anything from the movie Paprika. Instead I've created a a story about a young girl from small farming village suffering from famine during the winter. One day while exploring the forest around her village she finds and befriends the spirit of Spring. Riding on his back, they run and leap through the fields and forest. Wherever he (the spirit) steps, plants grow profusely around him. Upon arriving back at her village, the other villagers see his power to invigorate plants and so they hack him to pieces and use him to fertilize their fields (to the girl's dismay). Their crops grow and the village prospers once again. Later on while wandering through the forest again, she stumbles upon a sapling that bears a trace resemblance to the Spirit of Spring she met before, implying that some aspect of him survived and he will be reborn again.
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
The Hazards of Love is one long story. Smiley: nod Listen to it. Love it.

I'll give it a listen, but how much I enjoy a song is related to my ability to connect a story to it. A song may very well tell a story, but if it isn't one I can see or like, then I could care less about the song.

Edited, Feb 18th 2011 5:27pm by Allegory
#20 Feb 18 2011 at 10:59 PM Rating: Excellent
Allegory wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
The Hazards of Love is one long story. Smiley: nod Listen to it. Love it.

I'll give it a listen, but how much I enjoy a song is related to my ability to connect a story to it. A song may very well tell a story, but if it isn't one I can see or like, then I could care less about the song.


Oh, I see what you mean.
#21 Feb 19 2011 at 3:55 AM Rating: Good
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I always suggest Alestorm in threads like this.
Korpiklaani > Alestorm.
But I prefer Vikings over Pirates anyway.


And Allegory, have you ever listened to Alice Cooper? Just about any song he's written is a story in and of itself and most of them pretty damn cool too.
#22 Feb 19 2011 at 6:47 AM Rating: Default
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And Allegory, have you ever listened to Alice Cooper? Just about any song he's written is a story in and of itself and most of them pretty damn cool too.


His album, Goes To Hell, is a really good example of this. The entire album itself is a story. There's also Years Ago/Steven/The Awakening off of Welcome To My Nightmare which is probably his best work.

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On a different note, Radiohead put out a new album yesterday. It's pretty good. Kind of continuing in the direction they started going with In Rainbows and the single release, These Are My Twisted Words.
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#23 Feb 23 2011 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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And Allegory, have you ever listened to Alice Cooper? Just about any song he's written is a story in and of itself and most of them pretty damn cool too.


His album, Goes To Hell, is a really good example of this. The entire album itself is a story. There's also Years Ago/Steven/The Awakening off of Welcome To My Nightmare which is probably his best work.
His latest (I think) album 'Along Comes A Spider' continues the Steven storyline and it's a pretty cool concept album.

Oh and I haven't even mentioned The Who's Tommy here which is pretty much the best story in album form ever.
#24 Feb 23 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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His latest (I think) album 'Along Comes A Spider' continues the Steven storyline and it's a pretty cool concept album.


It's not too bad, not my favourite, but not too bad.


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Oh and I haven't even mentioned The Who's Tommy here which is pretty much the best story in album form ever.


I agree.

You seem to like a lot of prog rock, do you listen to The Alan Parsons Project? Check out Tales of Mystery And Imagination, and I Robot. Good stuff.
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#25 Feb 23 2011 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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I do indeed like prog and I'm not all that familiar with the Alan parsons project so I'll have to go check that out.
My music is mostly either hardrock/metal or prog, or a combination of those. Just not Dream Theater, that band just bores me for some reason even though it's both metal and prog.


Then again, Opeth and Emperor are awesome and those are both prog metal too. (or were in the case of Emperor)
#26 Feb 23 2011 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
To me, good music - whether it's a soundtrack or a pop song - has to have solid thematic elements and preferably interesting modulation. In non-music theory speak, songs without a catchy tune or that stay in one key all the time are boring. A song or a musical piece that has both of those things becomes a roller coast ride - I can see the drop coming and I can't wait to crest over it. I love short leitmotif soundtracks such as Final Fantasy Tactics.

A pop song also needs to have a harmonizing base line. When the base is the same two notes over and over again, there's no life to the piece.
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