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I think Cams & biometric safety, and stat reporting would be added value to police and target shooters handguns, and once you brought the price down you can bring everyone else along for the ride.

The problem is that this can't even remotely pass constitutional muster.

Kyle Odom, the former Marine suspected of shooting Idaho pastor Tim Remington on Sunday, was arrested Tuesday evening outside the White House, according to Coeur d’Alene police and the Secret Service.

The Secret Service said in a statement that Odom “threw unknown material over the south fence line at the White House Complex.”

He was immediately taken into custody.

Hours earlier, someone posted a message to Odom’s Facebook page claiming Remington was shot because the pastor was “from Mars” and had “ruined” Odom’s life, according to Washington television station KXLY.

Odom’s Facebook profile picture also was changed to a drawing of an alien.

Police in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, where the shooting took place, said Monday that Odom had a history of mental illness.

Remington was shot several times in the head and back after delivering his Sunday sermon at the Altar Church.

The shooting gained national attention, in part because Remington had prayed with Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas at a campaign rally in Coeur d’Alene on Saturday.

Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White said that a person thought to be Odom had sent a “rambling” manifesto to media outlets.

A copy of the manifesto, posted online by television station KHQ, shows that a section of it was addressed to President Obama. In it, Odom asks Obama to resist the aliens, writing: “It’s time someone took a stand to end this nonsense.”

Another section, titled “noteworthy Martians,” lists 50 members of Congress — including members of both parties — and dozens of Israeli officials.

The manifesto also makes threats against a second Altar Church pastor, who was placed under police protection, according to White.

“What he wrote definitely played a part in raising our awareness and concern,” White said of the manifesto.

The police chief added that he thought the Facebook post was genuine, as it was “consistent with other information we have received.”

White also read a statement from Odom’s family members, who said they were completely unaware of Odom’s plans and asked for privacy.

“We are truly thankful to God he is safe and no one else has been injured,” the family said in the statement.

According to KXLY, the following message was posted to Odom’s Facebook page on Tuesday:

“Things are not what they appear to be. The world is ruled by ancient civilization from Mars. Pastor Tim was one of them, and he was the reason my life was ruined. I will be sharing my story with as many people as possible. I don’t have time right now, they are chasing me. I shot Pastor Tim 12 times, there is no way any human could have survived that event. Anyway, I have sent my story to all the major news organizations. I have no time, I have to go.”

The Secret Service released the following statement Tuesday night:Remington is in stable condition despite being shot as many as six times, his son told local television station KREM.

John Padula, the second Altar Church pastor threatened in Odom’s letter, said Remington regained consciousness Monday.

“He’s whispering and talking to his family a little bit,” Padula told the Associated Press. “He’s doing absolutely amazing. He gave me a thumbs-up last night when I went in.”

Do you think a gun which played "Let the bodies hit the floor" whenever it was removed from its holster would lead to a higher gun death rate?

Eventually, they'd come as a standard safety feature, like gun safeties. seat belts and backup cameras.

Just the fact that the Firearms Owners’ Protection Act exists, and the myriad of people that flat out can't legally bear arms at all proves your opinion wrong. "Discouraging" something isn't the same as "preventing" it.

Thus, we can pass a law saying that I'm not allowed to fire my weapon in a way that harms another except under extremely limited circumstances, and we have not actually eliminated my "right to keep and bear arms"

If I'm not in complete control of when and whether my firearm can fire, then that right is gone.

No one has said that firearm ownership or use cannot be regulated at all.

You're basically arguing for the slippery slope when you say "since we already have this law, then there's no reason not to pass others".

As I pointed out earlier

The problem is that this can't even remotely pass constitutional muster. The entire argument against "assault weapons" is that they are not "needed" for things like hunting or personal defense. You can't make even that argument against handguns, since they are quite obviously the most effective weapon for personal defense. Problem is that the same features that make handguns great for personal defense also make them great for doing things like committing robberies and murders.