It's rare for gbaji to just come out and confirm some of his more abhorrent stances. This is one of those times.
Being a racist apologist still makes you a racist, gbaji. Thanks for confirming it.
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Almalieque wrote:
The fact that it remains mostly in the South is kind of the point, hence the civil war. The rest of the country was ready to move on. The South was not and maintaining the flag is a symbol of the South still not wanting to move forward.
No, it's not. It's not about "moving forward" (or not doing so) at all.
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Gbaji wrote:
Confederate battle flag? Don't really care. But the process bothers me.
You have a bizarre idea of what democracy is then.
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Primary supporters of the flag decided it was time to move forward and was joined with the opposition to put a vote to remove the flag. What part of that process don't you like?
The part where this was done, not as a result of thoughtful consideration and debate, and time for the public to weigh in (all of them, not just the angry mob), and perhaps even... have a vote on the subject, but in knee-jerk reaction to massive media enhanced outrage about something that was only at best tangentially connected to a shooting. Other than the fact that he occasionally displayed the flag, what on earth did it have to do with the shooting? Nothing. He also wore a shirt, and pants. And he was wearing sunglasses! We should ban sunglasses too! Oh. And he had a Golds Gym shirt on in one picture. So Golds Gym must be a racist organization and should be boycotted! Right?
It's silly. And a terrible way to go about doing this.
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While there might be interpretations of the flag, there is no interpretation of what the Confederacy stood for, which is symbolized in the Confederate battle flag. Are you implying that you support the Confederacy with their beliefs and practices, even in today's society? Talk about cherry picking. You can't say that the flag isn't racist, but then neglect all of the racism involved.
No. I'm saying that your assumption that the battle flag stood for "what the confederacy stood for" is incorrect (and frankly, that all the confederacy stood for was slavery is just plain absurd as well). It's historically been about fighting against outside influence or interference. While that may specifically have involved slavery (among other things) during the civil war, the concept exists independently of that particular issue. For most southerners, it's a symbol of individualism, refusal to conform to what others want you to be, doing things your own way, following your own path, etc. For them, there is zero racist connotation to it at all.
King Nobby wrote:
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Friar Bijou wrote:
It's rare for gbaji to just come out and confirm some of his more abhorrent stances. This is one of those times.
Being a racist apologist still makes you a racist, gbaji. Thanks for confirming it.
Being a racist apologist still makes you a racist, gbaji. Thanks for confirming it.
Which is like 8 levels of assumption lumped on top of each other. I'm merely stating that if the confederate flag doesn't symbolize racism for most of those who fly it, maybe we should take their word for this, and not push our own assumptions about the flags meaning on them. What's ironic in all of this is that fighting against exactly that sort of compulsory adoption of outside viewpoints *is* why most southerner's fly that flag.
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gbaji wrote:
No. I'm saying that your assumption that the battle flag stood for "what the confederacy stood for" is incorrect (and frankly, that all the confederacy stood for was slavery is just plain absurd as well). It's historically been about fighting against outside influence or interference. While that may specifically have involved slavery (among other things) during the civil war, the concept exists independently of that particular issue. For most southerners, it's a symbol of individualism, refusal to conform to what others want you to be, doing things your own way, following your own path, etc. For them, there is zero racist connotation to it at all.
You are pathetic.
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The other aspects of the Confederacy tie back to slavery. State's rights? Slavery. Economic issues? Slavery. Government intrusion? Slavery. The articles of succession for the various states often state in explicit terms that they hold the black man to be an inferior species. The CFA's constitution explicitly protects the right to own human beings as property.
This whole "Well, it wasn't really about slavery" nonsense is revisionist bullshit by a bunch of people who want to paint over the horror of their ancestors with some mythical Camelot story of antebellum nobility and honor against a terrible foe. It was about slavery. Get over it.
This whole "Well, it wasn't really about slavery" nonsense is revisionist bullshit by a bunch of people who want to paint over the horror of their ancestors with some mythical Camelot story of antebellum nobility and honor against a terrible foe. It was about slavery. Get over it.
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The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States wrote:
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property, and by the use of their power in the Federal Government have striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common Territories of the Republic.
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A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.
In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.
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Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.
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A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union.
The government of the United States, by certain joint resolutions, bearing date the 1st day of March, in the year A.D. 1845, proposed to the Republic of Texas, then a free, sovereign and independent nation, the annexation of the latter to the former, as one of the co-equal states thereof,
The people of Texas, by deputies in convention assembled, on the fourth day of July of the same year, assented to and accepted said proposals and formed a constitution for the proposed State, upon which on the 29th day of December in the same year, said State was formally admitted into the Confederated Union.
Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?
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THE SECESSION ORDINANCE.
AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, AND TO RESUME ALL THE RIGHTS AND POWERS GRANTED UNDER SAID CONSTITUTION.
The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.
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A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.
In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.
[...]
Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue.
[...]
A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union.
The government of the United States, by certain joint resolutions, bearing date the 1st day of March, in the year A.D. 1845, proposed to the Republic of Texas, then a free, sovereign and independent nation, the annexation of the latter to the former, as one of the co-equal states thereof,
The people of Texas, by deputies in convention assembled, on the fourth day of July of the same year, assented to and accepted said proposals and formed a constitution for the proposed State, upon which on the 29th day of December in the same year, said State was formally admitted into the Confederated Union.
Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?
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THE SECESSION ORDINANCE.
AN ORDINANCE TO REPEAL THE RATIFICATION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, AND TO RESUME ALL THE RIGHTS AND POWERS GRANTED UNDER SAID CONSTITUTION.
The people of Virginia, in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in Convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under the said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States, and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression; and the Federal Government, having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern Slaveholding States.
"Wasn't REALLY about Slavery! Herp derp-de-derp!"
Edited, Jun 24th 2015 8:26pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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And? He's from the south. Flying the flag is like wearing pants.
Having grown up in the South I can tell you that this is not true. More common there than in San Diego? Yeah, sure. Still associated primarily with racists, though. And I mean racist compared with everyone else in the South, so... really racist.
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For most southerners, it's a symbol of individualism, refusal to conform to what others want you to be, doing things your own way, following your own path, etc. For them, there is zero racist connotation to it at all.
Maybe if you're the Dukes of Hazzard.
Edited, Jun 24th 2015 5:58pm by Samira
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Non-racists who want to depict their Southern pride or anti-government control philosophy can fly the "Don't Tread on Me" flag. Or their state flag! Or a flag showing White House with a big red X through it. Or a zillion other ways of declaring their non-racist worldview that doesn't have a direct tie to slavery.
Frankly, a truck window decal of Calvin urinating on the White House would be classier.
How about a nice flag depicting a bowl of grits, a big-ass palmetto bug and a picture of Vivien Leigh driving a pick-up truck?
Edited, Jun 24th 2015 8:22pm by Jophiel
How about a nice flag depicting a bowl of grits, a big-ass palmetto bug and a picture of Vivien Leigh driving a pick-up truck?
Edited, Jun 24th 2015 8:22pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Gbaji wrote:
No, it's not. It's not about "moving forward" (or not doing so) at all.
Gbaji wrote:
The part where this was done, not as a result of thoughtful consideration and debate, and time for the public to weigh in (all of them, not just the angry mob), and perhaps even... have a vote on the subject, but in knee-jerk reaction to massive media enhanced outrage about something that was only at best tangentially connected to a shooting. Other than the fact that he occasionally displayed the flag, what on earth did it have to do with the shooting? Nothing. He also wore a shirt, and pants. And he was wearing sunglasses! We should ban sunglasses too! Oh. And he had a Golds Gym shirt on in one picture.! Right?
It's silly. And a terrible way to go about doing this.
It's silly. And a terrible way to go about doing this.
Gbaji wrote:
So Golds Gym must be a racist organization and should be boycotted
Gbaji wrote:
No. I'm saying that your assumption that the battle flag stood for "what the confederacy stood for" is incorrect (and frankly, that all the confederacy stood for was slavery is just plain absurd as well). It's historically been about fighting against outside influence or interference. While that may specifically have involved slavery (among other things) during the civil war, the concept exists independently of that particular issue. For most southerners, it's a symbol of individualism, refusal to conform to what others want you to be, doing things your own way, following your own path, etc. For them, there is zero racist connotation to it at all.
Tennessee didn't have an official Declaration of Causes document but they did have a governor who gave a speech imploring the state legislature to vote for secession. Here's a quote:
Interestingly, he goes on to ***** about how terrible it is that California entered the nation as a free territory and so the "southern people" could not exploit its wealth, because apparently you can't be a "southern man" unless you own some black dudes to do all your work for you:
It wasn't really about slavery though. It was about... uhhh... mineral rights! And whether or not you could use your slaves to exploit them.
Tennessee Governor Isham G. Harris wrote:
The States entered the Union upon terms of perfect political equality, each delegating certain powers to the General Government, but neither deterring any power to the other to interfere with its reserved rights or domestic affairs; hence, there is no power on earth which can rightfully determine whether slavery shall or shall not exist within the limits of any State, except the people thereof acting in their highest sovereign capacity.
The attempt of the Northern people, through the instrumentality of the Federal Govermuent--their State governments, and emigrant aid societies--to confine this species of property within the limits of the present Southern States--to impair its value by constant agitation and refusal to deliver up the fugitive--to appropriate the whole of the Territories, which are the common property all the people of all the States, to the Southern man who is unwilling to live under a government which, may by law recognize the free negroe as his equal; "and in fine, to put the question where the Northern mind will rest in the belief of its ultimate extinction" is justly regarded by the people of the Southern States as a gross and palpable violation of the spirit and obvious meaning of the compact of Union--an impertinent intermeddling with their domestic affairs, destructive of fraternal feeling, ordinary comity, and well defined rights.
As slavery receded from the North, it was followed by the most violent and fanatical opposition. At first the anti-slavery cloud, which now overshadows the nation, was no larger than a man's hand. Most of you can remember, with vivid distinctness, those days of brotlierhood,.when throughout the whole North, the abolitionist was justly regarded as an enemy of his country. Weak, diminutive and contemptible as was this part in the purer days of the Republic, it has now grown to collossal proportions, and its recent rapid strides to power, have given it possession of the.present House of Representatives, and elected one of its leaders to the Presidency of the United States; and in the progress of events, the Senate and Supreme Court must also soon pass into the hands of this party--a party upon whose revolutionary banner is inscribed, "No more slave States, no more slave Territory, no return of the fugitive to his master"--an "irrepressible conflict" between the Free and Slave States; "and whether it, be long or short, peaceful or bloody, the struggle shall go on, until the sun shall not rise upon a master or set upon a slave."
The attempt of the Northern people, through the instrumentality of the Federal Govermuent--their State governments, and emigrant aid societies--to confine this species of property within the limits of the present Southern States--to impair its value by constant agitation and refusal to deliver up the fugitive--to appropriate the whole of the Territories, which are the common property all the people of all the States, to the Southern man who is unwilling to live under a government which, may by law recognize the free negroe as his equal; "and in fine, to put the question where the Northern mind will rest in the belief of its ultimate extinction" is justly regarded by the people of the Southern States as a gross and palpable violation of the spirit and obvious meaning of the compact of Union--an impertinent intermeddling with their domestic affairs, destructive of fraternal feeling, ordinary comity, and well defined rights.
As slavery receded from the North, it was followed by the most violent and fanatical opposition. At first the anti-slavery cloud, which now overshadows the nation, was no larger than a man's hand. Most of you can remember, with vivid distinctness, those days of brotlierhood,.when throughout the whole North, the abolitionist was justly regarded as an enemy of his country. Weak, diminutive and contemptible as was this part in the purer days of the Republic, it has now grown to collossal proportions, and its recent rapid strides to power, have given it possession of the.present House of Representatives, and elected one of its leaders to the Presidency of the United States; and in the progress of events, the Senate and Supreme Court must also soon pass into the hands of this party--a party upon whose revolutionary banner is inscribed, "No more slave States, no more slave Territory, no return of the fugitive to his master"--an "irrepressible conflict" between the Free and Slave States; "and whether it, be long or short, peaceful or bloody, the struggle shall go on, until the sun shall not rise upon a master or set upon a slave."
Interestingly, he goes on to ***** about how terrible it is that California entered the nation as a free territory and so the "southern people" could not exploit its wealth, because apparently you can't be a "southern man" unless you own some black dudes to do all your work for you:
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It excluded, by the same Compromise, the Southern people from California, whose mineral wealth, fertility of soil, and salubrity of climate, is not surpassed on earth, by prematurely forcing her into the Union under a Constitution, conceived in fraud by a set of adventurers, in the total absence of any law authorizing the formation of a Constitution, fixing the qualification of voters, regulating the time, place, or manner of electing delegates, or the time or place of the meeting of such Convention. Yet all these irregular and unauthorized proceedings were.sanctified by the fact that the Constitution prohibited slavery, and forever closed the doors of that rich and desirable territory against the Southern people. And while the Southern mind was still burning under a humiliating sense of this wrong, it refused to admit Kansas into the Union upon a Constitution, framed by authority of Congress, and by delegates elected in conforinity to law, upon the ground that slavery was recognized and protected.
It wasn't really about slavery though. It was about... uhhh... mineral rights! And whether or not you could use your slaves to exploit them.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jeez. The moment I look away from this forum it explodes with activity. (Yes, I am exaggerating a bit, but doesn't even a tiny fire cracker explode?)
I wasn't really expecting this to become a topic of discussion here. I can't really even believe how frequently it is in the news and internet opinion blogospehere. Apparently there are people all over the country crying because they can no longer purchase cheap plastic weave flags strewn together tirelessly by slaves in China to represent how backwards and redneck they are at their local Wal-Mart. I imagine if I wanted one badly enough, I could attempt to make one myself. It's a ******* flag.
I wasn't really expecting this to become a topic of discussion here. I can't really even believe how frequently it is in the news and internet opinion blogospehere. Apparently there are people all over the country crying because they can no longer purchase cheap plastic weave flags strewn together tirelessly by slaves in China to represent how backwards and redneck they are at their local Wal-Mart. I imagine if I wanted one badly enough, I could attempt to make one myself. It's a ******* flag.
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Friar Bijou wrote:
That's like saying the N@zi flag was just about German self-determination and it's just rabble-rouser liberals tying it to anti-Semitism.
Edited, Jun 25th 2015 9:32am by lolgaxe
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I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Re-reading Harris' comments reminded me a little too much of people complaining about how SSM and gay rights advocacy has grown in the last decade.
"Hey, remember the good old days when we ALL those the pro-rights people were kooks and laughed at them? And now people are agreeing with them! What happened to yesterday?!"
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At first the anti-slavery cloud, which now overshadows the nation, was no larger than a man's hand. Most of you can remember, with vivid distinctness, those days of brotherhood, when throughout the whole North, the abolitionist was justly regarded as an enemy of his country. Weak, diminutive and contemptible as was this part in the purer days of the Republic, it has now grown to collossal proportions, and its recent rapid strides to power, have given it possession of the.present House of Representatives, and elected one of its leaders to the Presidency of the United States
"Hey, remember the good old days when we ALL those the pro-rights people were kooks and laughed at them? And now people are agreeing with them! What happened to yesterday?!"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Heh, misappropriated by hate groups. That's cute.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
"It used to just mean slavery but now it means hatred! That ain't right!"
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Google is now pulling any apps on their store that have the flag on..
Where does it end? I am ******* fine with flag going down from the gvnt building.. they lost the war after all, but how is the flag worse than ****, che memorabilia, and tween music?
Where does it end? I am ******* fine with flag going down from the gvnt building.. they lost the war after all, but how is the flag worse than ****, che memorabilia, and tween music?
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angrymnk wrote:
Where does it end? I am ******* fine with flag going down from the gvnt building.. they lost the war after all, but how is the flag worse than ****, che memorabilia, and tween music?
I'm not sure, let's ask Germany how far we should go.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
Where does it end? I am ******* fine with flag going down from the gvnt building.. they lost the war after all, but how is the flag worse than ****, che memorabilia, and tween music?
I'm not sure, let's ask Germany how far we should go.
We won't be happy until everything is green alien fluids...
Can't sleep, clown will eat me.
"Where does it end?" doesn't really resonate when it's private companies acting in their own best public relations interest. It "ends" when Google decides that its image is safe and secure and it's staying profitable.
Edit: Also, that article is about Apple, not Google but the point remains the same. It also says that Apple is reinstating apps that are educational, historical and other like uses. So I'm not ready to start the hand-wringing just yet.
Edited, Jun 25th 2015 7:14pm by Jophiel
Edit: Also, that article is about Apple, not Google but the point remains the same. It also says that Apple is reinstating apps that are educational, historical and other like uses. So I'm not ready to start the hand-wringing just yet.
Edited, Jun 25th 2015 7:14pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
Where does it end? I am ******* fine with flag going down from the gvnt building.. they lost the war after all, but how is the flag worse than ****, che memorabilia, and tween music?
I'm not sure, let's ask Germany how far we should go.
Can't even have the flag in games set during WW2, it's redic.
Just as Planned.
You start out believing that the confederate battle flag is racist
Oh, I see. I hadn't realized your argument was predicated on living in some bizarre delusion that most people could only contemplate under the influence of DMT or the like. So your argument is that 'believing' that the flag of an army fighting, almost exclusively, for the right of white people to literally own black people is the reason people mistakenly find said flag to be racist. Now it all makes sense. Really it's a celebration of, um, states rights? It's states rights, right? I mean every slack jawed yokel anachronism you idiots cling to is because 'states rights', right?
I kid, I kid. Lee was an amazing general, it's understandable that his flag could be seen as a tribute to his military brilliance. The Army of Northern Virginia? Amazing. You know who else was a brilliant commander? Rommel. I assume they fly the Afrika Corps flag in Berlin, right? I mean...states rights?
Oh, I see. I hadn't realized your argument was predicated on living in some bizarre delusion that most people could only contemplate under the influence of DMT or the like. So your argument is that 'believing' that the flag of an army fighting, almost exclusively, for the right of white people to literally own black people is the reason people mistakenly find said flag to be racist. Now it all makes sense. Really it's a celebration of, um, states rights? It's states rights, right? I mean every slack jawed yokel anachronism you idiots cling to is because 'states rights', right?
I kid, I kid. Lee was an amazing general, it's understandable that his flag could be seen as a tribute to his military brilliance. The Army of Northern Virginia? Amazing. You know who else was a brilliant commander? Rommel. I assume they fly the Afrika Corps flag in Berlin, right? I mean...states rights?
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How long will it be until it's totally fine to NOT "honor and respect" the brave soldiers who fought in the confederacy?
I mean, does anybody honor the Germanic tribes who fought off the barbarians, so that their descendants could emigrate to America 1000 years later? (Or ditto for whatever European ethnicity you descend from.) Nobody honors Blorg who bravely took a woolly mammoth tusk to the gut so that his family could survive. I know the "honoring confederate soldiers" line is actually just cover and is bullsh** in the first place, but as time progresses it become increasingly bullsh**. They get more fake remembrance in the South than WW1 soldiers do.
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