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#1 Jun 17 2015 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
So yeah the head of the NAACP in Spokane is a white woman who says she's black in order to get benefits and enhance her career oppurtunities....

And yeah there was that woman who said she was a native American...or at least 1/60th native American anyway...

And lets not forget our fearless leader who lied on his college application stating Kenya as his place of birth so he could get college benefits....

And of course there's Hillary's wife and his "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" on tap.


You liberal Democrats must be so proud.
#2 Jun 17 2015 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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The GOP former Speaker of the House, third in line to the presidency is a child molester who sexually abused boys on his wrestling squad and paid out millions of dollars to cover it up.

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#3 Jun 17 2015 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
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The GOP former Speaker of the House, third in line to the presidency is a child molester who sexually abused boys on his wrestling squad and paid out millions of dollars to cover it up.


Child molester? Not saying the guy didn't do anything wrong here, but it's a pet peeve of mine when people use incorrect terminology to exaggerate wrongdoing in cases like this. Assuming that the allegations are true (which we don't know), then we're talking about a statutory rape scenario (high school students are not pre-adolescents), not child molestation. Which is bad (for a number of reasons), but bad as in "stuff that lots of politicians have been caught doing, some of whom have actually been re-elected after doing" (well, the Democrats anyway).

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#4 Jun 17 2015 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
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gbaji is so starved for attention he defends someone who diddled children.
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#5 Jun 17 2015 at 6:56 PM Rating: Good
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If a perp is a Democrat, it's "molestation'; if a perp is GOP, he's "just" a rapist.

Nice moralizing, gbaji.



ALSO: "child molester" and "pedophile" are not the same thing.
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#6 Jun 17 2015 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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Which is bad (for a number of reasons), but bad as in "stuff that lots of politicians have been caught doing, some of whom have actually been re-elected after doing" (well, the Democrats anyway). done by a member of the party that consistently claims moral high ground and screeches about how religious they are, so we get to add hypocrisy to the event.
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#7 Jun 17 2015 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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ALSO: "child molester" and "pedophile" are not the same thing.


In the sense that you can touch them without liking them or like them without touching them? Smiley: dubious
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#8 Jun 17 2015 at 7:04 PM Rating: Good
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Friar Bijou wrote:
ALSO: "child molester" and "pedophile" are not the same thing.
In the sense that you can touch them without liking them or like them without touching them? Smiley: dubious
In the sense that gbaji is conflating the two words. Due, no doubt, to his lack of how words work.

In the US a person under the age of 18 is a "child". If you do sex at such a person you are a "Child Molester" regardless of the age of the victim.

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#9 Jun 17 2015 at 7:17 PM Rating: Good
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#10 Jun 17 2015 at 7:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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I knew if I typed that, Gbaji would be along to say "Whoooah-ho-ho! He might have sexually abused some boys while acting as their teacher and coach but..." and put it under a veneer of "I'm just sayin'..." Smiley: laugh

Also, it's not "statutory rape" for a teacher to have sex with teenaged students, it's "aggravated criminal sexual abuse". A Class 2 felony. If not for the statute of limitations, he'd be looking at 3-7 years per kid he diddled but, sure, some random nutjob in Spokane said she was black so... yeah.
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#11 Jun 17 2015 at 7:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Do sex at?

If you do sex at a minor, you end out being a child molester. Smiley: schooled

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 8:19pm by Jophiel
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#12 Jun 17 2015 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Do sex at?

If you do sex at a minor, you end out being a child molester. Smiley: schooled

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 8:19pm by Jophiel


Not sure if anyone would call someone poking a 17 year old a child molester, I mean, ya, I'm sure someone somewhere would, but I'm also sure a lot more would be like "Damn right dude, tap that shit".

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 9:31pm by TirithRR
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#13 Jun 17 2015 at 7:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Whatever, jailbait is jailbait, and teachers (and coaches) need to keep their hands off the kids* for whom they are responsible during school and extracurricular activities.


*OF ANY AGE, unbunch your knickers.
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#14 Jun 17 2015 at 7:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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I just wanted to combine "do sex at" with "end out" Smiley: tongue

Although the person whose sister identified him as abused by Hastert told her that Hastert abused him through all four years of high school so the kid couldn't have been older than 14 when Hastert started messing with him.
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#15 Jun 17 2015 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
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Well, ya, but, 17 isn't jailbait in what... half of the US? While still a minor, or child, yet legally bangable. Wouldn't make you a child molester in most peoples' minds.
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How do you feel about adults banging 14 year olds?
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#17 Jun 17 2015 at 8:08 PM Rating: Good
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How do you feel about adults banging 14 year olds?


*shrug*

I'm not talking about any specific case, just the "under 18 is child molestation" stuff earlier.

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 10:09pm by TirithRR
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#18 Jun 17 2015 at 8:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, sure, but at some age under 18 you would call it molestation, right?

Anyway, there is no criminal classification for molestation under the Illinois system. What Hastert (most likely) did would be "aggravated criminal sexual abuse" (Class 2 Felony) and potentially "criminal sexual assault" (Class 1 Felony) if any penetrative act took place. The "...of a minor" is implicit since the standards for each act are that the victim was a minor.

Edited, Jun 17th 2015 9:16pm by Jophiel
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#19 Jun 17 2015 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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How do you feel about adults banging 14 year olds?


Well, my opinion depends on whether it was consenting (assume temporarily that consent can legally be given) and whether or not there was duress (in this case coach-student it's already at least grey area). I'm not blanket against it, but there are an awful lot of asterisks.
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I'm not blanket against it, but there are an awful lot of asterisks.


Like "How much milk did she drink growing up?"
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#21 Jun 17 2015 at 10:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I don't think that there's enough asterisks to make "Adults banging fourteen year olds" okay.
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#22 Jun 18 2015 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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(assume temporarily that consent can legally be given)
Which it can't. Squick, dude.
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#23 Jun 18 2015 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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If you bang my 14 year old and I find out you'll find a hole.
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If you bang my 14 year old and I find out you'll find a hole.
Phrasing.
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#26 Jun 18 2015 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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"stuff that lots of politicians have been caught doing, some of whom have actually been re-elected after doing"

Right, not a big deal. Freshmen GOP congresspeople are required by leadership to go to a three day seminar titled "Everyone knows you love to touch boys, lets talk about how to hide it"
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