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#27 Apr 23 2015 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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The Mets are 13-3 with 11 in a row. The apocalypse is nigh and you're focusing on this?
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#28 Apr 23 2015 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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The Mets are 13-3 with 11 in a row. The apocalypse is nigh and you're focusing on this?


Sports.. *zone out*
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#29 Apr 24 2015 at 5:56 AM Rating: Default
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If you want to expose yourself 24/7, be me guest; but don't make me do so as well.
Then your only option is to move to a 4th world country with no technology. Do us all a favor and seek your sanctuary.
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If you want to expose yourself 24/7, be me guest; but don't make me do so as well.
Then your only option is to move to a 4th world country with no technology. Do us all a favor and seek your sanctuary.


Are you French or something? There are options other than simply rolling over. I get that throwing hands in the air and leaving in a huff is your thing, but as you grow older you realize, you can sometimes change things in your favor.

And people are already adjusting ( being annoyingly flexible is what we do ). Installing faraday cage in a house is now a thing.

Edited, Apr 24th 2015 8:56am by angrymnk
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Installing faraday cage in a house is now a thing.

In case you want to make sure that your cell phones don't work? Smiley: tinfoilhat
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#32 Apr 24 2015 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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angrymnk wrote:
Installing faraday cage in a house is now a thing.

In case you want to make sure that your cell phones don't work? Smiley: tinfoilhat


I find it amusing that we still use tinfoil hat emoticons after what they were saying about surveillance turned out not to be that far fetched after all.
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#33 Apr 24 2015 at 7:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Fortunately for me, there's enough lead paint on these walls to make me think there's enough lead paint on these walls to stop people spying on me.
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#34 Apr 24 2015 at 7:34 AM Rating: Default
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angrymnk wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
If you want to expose yourself 24/7, be me guest; but don't make me do so as well.
Then your only option is to move to a 4th world country with no technology. Do us all a favor and seek your sanctuary.


Are you French or something? There are options other than simply rolling over. I get that throwing hands in the air and leaving in a huff is your thing, but as you grow older you realize, you can sometimes change things in your favor.

And people are already adjusting ( being annoyingly flexible is what we do ). Installing faraday cage in a house is now a thing.

Edited, Apr 24th 2015 8:56am by angrymnk

FAN.....TA....SY Land. You can't escape reality. No country is going to allow people to plan and execute attacks on their soil because you don't want them to know what you're eating for lunch. You don't have to roll over, you can go live in the woods or just don't use technology if you want to. When your privacy is being exploited and posted on revenge prawn sites, then you will have a point and the ability to make change. However, giving capabilities for criminals to commit crime is a non-starter.

#35 Apr 24 2015 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
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In case you want to make sure that your cell phones don't work? Smiley: tinfoilhat
Maybe I can finally make some progress on Candy Crush Saga without them adding more stages.
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#36 Apr 24 2015 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Almalieque wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
angrymnk wrote:
If you want to expose yourself 24/7, be me guest; but don't make me do so as well.
Then your only option is to move to a 4th world country with no technology. Do us all a favor and seek your sanctuary.


Are you French or something? There are options other than simply rolling over. I get that throwing hands in the air and leaving in a huff is your thing, but as you grow older you realize, you can sometimes change things in your favor.

And people are already adjusting ( being annoyingly flexible is what we do ). Installing faraday cage in a house is now a thing.

Edited, Apr 24th 2015 8:56am by angrymnk

FAN.....TA....SY Land. You can't escape reality. No country is going to allow people to plan and execute attacks on their soil because you don't want them to know what you're eating for lunch. You don't have to roll over, you can go live in the woods or just don't use technology if you want to. When your privacy is being exploited and posted on revenge prawn sites, then you will have a point and the ability to make change. However, giving capabilities for criminals to commit crime is a non-starter.



Yeah.. if you own a knife you gave a criminal a capability commit a crime.

Quick..lets monitor sales of all knives! For the children, good of the nation and so on

Edited, Apr 24th 2015 9:55am by angrymnk
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I'm just glad your country spent all of the money to spy on our citizens so we didn't have to, good chaps you are!
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Yeah.. if you own a knife you gave a criminal a capability commit a crime.

Quick..lets monitor sales of all knives! For the children, good of the nation and so on


http://www.knifeup.com/knife-laws/
#39 Apr 24 2015 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
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More money for co-co-co-co-cocaine.
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#40 Apr 24 2015 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm just glad your country spent all of the money to spy on our citizens so we didn't have to, good chaps you are!
Smiley: lol My thoughts exactly!


And **** me, someone kill me. I'm with Alma on this one (so far).
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Yeah.. if you own a knife you gave a criminal a capability commit a crime.

Quick..lets monitor sales of all knives! For the children, good of the nation and so on


http://www.knifeup.com/knife-laws/


How is retarted law helping your argument?
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The government isn't going to create capabilities for criminals to commit crime because of your personal desires. Regulation exists. It sucks for everyone who is abiding by the law. Certain things are debatable and can be adjusted. Having the ability to openly discuss terror plots on the Internet is not one of them.
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I still don't get how a Faraday cage in your home is supposed to help. Unless you just never plan on transmitting out of your home (or only using wired sources) in which case there's nothing to spy on anyway.
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The government isn't going to create capabilities for criminals to commit crime because of your personal desires. Regulation exists. It sucks for everyone who is abiding by the law. Certain things are debatable and can be adjusted. Having the ability to openly discuss terror plots on the Internet is not one of them.


You [person of questionable intelligence and unpleasant secondary sex characterics ] clearly never heard of this revolutionary notion called consent of the governed. Don't sweat it, it is new.
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I still don't get how a Faraday cage in your home is supposed to help. Unless you just never plan on transmitting out of your home (or only using wired sources) in which case there's nothing to spy on anyway.


I love that u think it should be the size of the house. I was thinking smallet than that.
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I never said that it had to be the size of the house, but you haven't explained how a room sized cage will help you either. I assume you don't really know either since you've twice avoided actually giving a plausible scenario.
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#47 Apr 24 2015 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
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You [person of questionable intelligence and unpleasant secondary *** characterics ] clearly never heard of this revolutionary notion called consent of the governed. Don't sweat it, it is new.
Fantasy land..Smiley: lolSmiley: lol
#48 Apr 24 2015 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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I never said that it had to be the size of the house, but you haven't explained how a room sized cage will help you either. I assume you don't really know either since you've twice avoided actually giving a plausible scenario.

A Faraday cage will keep you hidden from the alien invaders.

But other than that, having a room with a Faraday cage wouldn't help your privacy at all...
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#49 Apr 24 2015 at 3:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I never said that it had to be the size of the house, but you haven't explained how a room sized cage will help you either. I assume you don't really know either since you've twice avoided actually giving a plausible scenario.


Huh? Three times is the charm? I am not sure hoe how can anyone not ser the benefit of cells not workin in one specific room..
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angrymnk wrote:
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I never said that it had to be the size of the house, but you haven't explained how a room sized cage will help you either. I assume you don't really know either since you've twice avoided actually giving a plausible scenario.


Huh? Three times is the charm? I am not sure hoe how can anyone not ser the benefit of cells not workin in one specific room..


I think that's an extreme response with minimal gains. The point that some of us are trying to make here is that you have to balance what you are securing versus the effort to do so. Faraday cage being a perfect example. Ok. So you keep your cell phone in the cage when you are home so it can't be hacked or used as a remote microphone, or whatever. But... Um... If I'm spying on you and I know your cell phone stops pinging once it's in your house, then I know where you are just as I know where you are when your cell phone *isn't* in a cage in your home. You can't actually use the phone while it's there, and I can easily use some other means to listen in on the stationary location you've politely informed me about.

If someone's actually doing that, of course. Paranoia and whatnot. But... Um. You could also just turn off the phone and get the exact same results. You now, for folks who just have a normal amount of concern that their cell phone might be listening in on them, or being used remotely in some way they don't like. But the biggest surveillance risk to a cell phone is that it's a device that constantly reports its position to a third party device (whole set of them) and you carry it around with you all day long. So if I want to know where you go every day, I don't need to hack your phone. I just get the information from the cell towers. You're literally obsessing on the least significant privacy risk while ignoring the much bigger one. If some nefarious government agency wants to spy on me in my home, they can do that no matter what I do with my cell phone, or how many Faraday cages I build (they don't block sound, only rf).

I'm not saying just toss out any concept of privacy, but I do think that prioritizing things a bit more intelligently would be helpful.
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#51 Apr 24 2015 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
As the John Oliver interview with Snowden confirmed: If only the debate on the NSA was phrased in such a way as to know whether or not the government could see your dick pics everyone would care.

Edited, Apr 24th 2015 6:22pm by Omegavegeta
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