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#1 Sep 26 2014 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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What the **** am I watching?

Nexa is generally immune to pop culture fads, but now she's knitting and watching a show *with a fucking voice over narration*. How did this become a thing? HOW?
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#2 Sep 26 2014 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
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What the **** am I watching?

Nexa is generally immune to pop culture fads, but now she's knitting and watching a show *with a fucking voice over narration*. How did this become a thing? HOW?

What's she knitting?

I've vowed to crochet an afghan over the winter. I haven't started yet.

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#3 Sep 26 2014 at 6:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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I watched the first couple episodes because Flea was watching it. But, beyond the narration and the first episode being a Study in Teal and Orange, I soon realized that I had no affection for the main character and she was really the MAIN character with nothing else going on around her. So I lost interest fairly early on.

Flea, on the other hand, now has some blog about the show with a bajillion followers and praise from the source books' author. Women, am I right?
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#4 Sep 26 2014 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't read anything that this show was based on but was watching something on Starz prior to its airing and figured I would give it a shot. I was out of town when it premiered so I missed the first couple episodes. Ended up catching it all earlier this week on a marathon.

Can't say it is what I expected it to be. And judging by the previews of this week's episode I don't really care for the way they are handling the time travel. Original timeline appears to have continued without her. Also the fact they are going to even focus on the original timeline is very disappointing.

Last weeks episode was nothing but sex, so I guess that's one good thing. Helps that the leading lady is attractive and often naked. But that is the norm for premium cable shows. Can't be forced to pay extra for a channel unless we get to see some ********

But overall I have enjoyed the story so far.
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I was going to blame Game of Thrones for the "gotta have soft-core ****" thing in premium channel shows but, upon reflection, Rome was fairly heavy in the tits and ass as well.
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#6 Sep 26 2014 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I was going to blame Game of Thrones for the "gotta have soft-core ****" thing in premium channel shows but, upon reflection, Rome was fairly heavy in the tits and *** as well.

I think the critique of GOT sex is that it's primarily used to cover otherwise boring exposition.

"Let me tell you about the history of House Baelish" So boring.

"Let me tell you about the history of house Bealish while this character we will never see again eats another girl's ***." Riveting TV.
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#7 Sep 26 2014 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
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Good that "sex" is filtered, because that would offend someone, but "eats another girl's ***" is totally fine.
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Well, we need to be able to discuss French donkey-based cuisine.
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#9 Sep 26 2014 at 11:37 PM Rating: Good
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Wikipedia wrote:
Published in 1991, it focuses on 20th century nurse Claire Randall, who time travels to 18th century Scotland and finds adventure and romance with the dashing James Fraser.

Sounds awful. Sounds like the Mary Steenburgen scenes from Back to the Future 3, aka the worst scenes.



Edited, Sep 27th 2014 12:37am by trickybeck
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Published in 1991, it focuses on 20th century nurse Claire Randall, who time travels to 18th century Scotland and finds adventure and romance with the dashing James Fraser.

Sounds awful.

I assume it resonates better if you have a ******.
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#11 Sep 27 2014 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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trickybeck wrote:
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Published in 1991, it focuses on 20th century nurse Claire Randall, who time travels to 18th century Scotland and finds adventure and romance with the dashing James Fraser.

Sounds awful. Sounds like the Mary Steenburgen scenes from Back to the Future 3, aka the worst scenes.



Edited, Sep 27th 2014 12:37am by trickybeck

It wasn't until mid season that it got all lovey dovey. And even then it was all tits.
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#12 Sep 27 2014 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Published in 1991, it focuses on 20th century nurse Claire Randall, who time travels to 18th century Scotland and finds adventure and romance with the dashing James Fraser.

Sounds awful.

I assume it resonates better if you have a ******.


Like an echo chamber?
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#13 Sep 27 2014 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Flea, on the other hand, now has some blog about the show with a bajillion followers and praise from the source books' author. Women, am I right?

Will this make her fabulously wealthy and able to escape her downtrodden life of quiet Midwestern desperation?
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#15 Sep 28 2014 at 1:50 AM Rating: Good
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I find some of the text and the subtext a little interesting. These are perhaps consequences of the story being written specifically to engage females, and specifically for the female gaze. The female protagonist's main quality is respect-worthiness. She's either automatically respected, or often gains respect later from people who had contempt for her. Closely followed by her quality of competence. She is often fallible, even laughably so, but when it really really matters, she's competent, useful, and gets things done. She's very opinionated and assertive. Her attractiveness is more a dignified handsomeness, (which incidentally helps make her look intelligent), than a sex-kitten look, or a soft prettiness. And yet she's far from unfeminine.

Her male opposite is arguably prettier than she is.

The usual male lead is a guy that other guys want to be, and the woman is a woman that guys want to f-cuddle. I really think that Outlander presents a woman that women want to be, and a guy that women want to f-cuddle. I find it interesting that other people find Claire irritating. I find her admirable without being irritatingly perfect. (That drinking!... another reversal from the hard-drinking hero trope)

She is not only the medical professional, but a war veteran in this story. He's a war veteran too, but two of his experiences: that of being a victim of a shocking abuse, and of being in hiding, are more usually a female trope.

More hilariously and obviously, the mid-season revelation that he's a virgin is a fun reversal.

Right from the start the two of them take turns rescuing and looking after each other. They spend time leaning on the other, they spend time being strong for the other.

Jaime's personal qualities are revealed over several episodes. He's pretty faced, masculine bodied, has a dry wit that especially comes through when you watch with closed captions, socially intelligent (he tells her how she's alienating people etc), well educated and practically skilled. Oh and romantic/emotionally intelligent. Major spoiler eg his "make it so" list for the wedding.

MASSIVE SPOILER FOR END OF SEASON HE is the subject of the villain's villainous attraction, the one the villain loves, lusts, abducts and rapes. Really, when I think about it, for a 1980's book the author packed in a whole lot of social-subversion, as well as trope-subversion of the romance genre. And as far as I know, she was the inventor of the time-travel romance, and the Scottish Highlander Fetish romance, which together and separately became so freakishly popular .

I've read romances that are more successful high literature than Outlander, but I'm finding it positive and refreshing to have a romance given the 5-star production treatment.


Edited, Sep 28th 2014 4:03am by Aripyanfar
#16 Sep 28 2014 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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The usual male lead is a guy that other guys want to be

Jesus, no. Who wants to be Jamie? Dougal, sure. I want to be Dougal's beard more than I'd ever want to be Jamie.
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#17 Sep 28 2014 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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I was contrasting usual male leads (in pop media) with the reverse case in Outlander. Jamie is a guy women want to f-cuddle, and Claire is a woman women want to be. Neither are designed to appeal to men. If they do, that is incidental.
#18 Sep 29 2014 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Yup. Poor reading skills on my part.
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#19 Sep 29 2014 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Yup.

You know who else starts posts out with 'yup'?

Funny thing; when we were first married my husband always used to correct me when I'd say "yeah" instead of "yes". It was the only word he ever corrected me on. He is not in any way a grammar ****. Must have been something his parents bugged him about. maybe that wasn't so funny
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#20 Sep 29 2014 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
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I'm watching the show and it's ok. Outlander is one of my two favorite books. I think I've read it about 14 times. That said, watching the shows I've come to realize that, as usual, a lot is lost from book to screen. It's not the fault of the creators and the author is heavily involved in the making. It just feels slow paced and uninteresting because this particular book it's more about the thoughts going through the protagonists mind when she finds herself 200 years in the past, frantically trying to get home alive. You just can't get that feeling across on screen as well as you can on page.

I'm going book two will show better as there is a lot of political intrigue and battles, culminating to one of the bloodiest battles in Scottish history. Until then it shall remain less than awesome

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#21 Sep 29 2014 at 9:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've had several friends recommend the book/tv show to me. Not a fan of books aboot ol' timey Scottish sexay times, I guess. I do like beards though.
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#22 Sep 30 2014 at 3:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Funny thing; when we were first married my husband always used to correct me when I'd say "yeah" instead of "yes".

Nexa and I both say "Did you mean 'Yes, please.'" to Hannah about 30 times per day.
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#23 Sep 30 2014 at 6:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's growing on him, he's full of ****. He even likes the song at the beginning now, I can tell. I'll have him learning to knit in no time.

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#24 Oct 01 2014 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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It's growing on him

No. No, I assure you it is not. I just love you enough to watch Highland Boning Show....For Ladies and Laddies.

Here's every episode of that show:

Claire internal monologue: "Boy, these old hicks sure are backwards, good thing I bring them my feisty knowledge. But, wait, they still smile at farts, we ARE the same after all."

Claire ends up alone somehow.

Scottish rapist: "Aha, a woman, rape her!"
Claire escapes or is rescued.
Claire: "Boy, there's pretty much just a constant nonstop threat of rape around here in this desolate hilly land with more sheep than people."
Jaime: "Don't worry, I'll stop the rapists with my ****"

Enya song, credits.
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Sing me a song of a lass that is gone, say could that lass be I?
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I thought you were talking about the 2008 movie where Jesus becomes an astronaut and crashes into Valhalla. At least I think that was the plot.
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