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#1 Sep 02 2014 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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I hear Scotland is voting on independence this month.

I believe they're looking for independence from both the UK and the EU. Or maybe that goes without saying, that if they leave one they leave the other. I dunno.

What kind of impact will this have on England and the rest of the UK?

Any Scotlanders around here anymore (wasn't Youshutup a Scot?)

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#2 Sep 02 2014 at 8:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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What kind of impact will this have on England and the rest of the UK?

The Thick of It will make less sense from a contemporary standpoint.
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#3 Sep 02 2014 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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I kind of hope it goes through and gives all our unhappy little states the idea they can do it, too.
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#4 Sep 02 2014 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
I believe they're looking for independence from both the UK and the EU. Or maybe that goes without saying, that if they leave one they leave the other. I dunno.


I would assume that if they disconnect from England they would have to deal with the EU as a new entity, or decline to do so.
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I would assume that if they disconnect from England

I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.
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#6 Sep 02 2014 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
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Samira wrote:
I would assume that if they disconnect from England
I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.
Feasible.
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#7 Sep 02 2014 at 9:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Samira wrote:
I would assume that if they disconnect from England

I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.


Nah, just rebuild Hadrian's Wall.
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#8 Sep 02 2014 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
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I would assume that if they disconnect from England

I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.

If they just hang tight, global warming should be causing the seas to rise enough to isolate them from the rest of the UK.
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#9 Sep 02 2014 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Might need to give the White Walkers some kayaks, then.

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#10 Sep 02 2014 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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I kind of hope it goes through and gives all our unhappy little states the idea they can do it, too.
This. I'm all for more people taking their pie and going home, makes for the best potluck ever.
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#11 Sep 02 2014 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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Rick Perry would be such a grand Pooh-Bah of Texas.
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#12 Sep 02 2014 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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They'll be voting on it on the 18th and it should fail if reason prevails, Scottish independence would mean a new coin and nobody has an idea of how they want to do that. The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2014 6:15pm by Aethien
#13 Sep 02 2014 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Samira wrote:
I would assume that if they disconnect from England
I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.
Feasible.


Bugs Bunny pulling a Lorena Bobbit on The US of A!
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
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Other nations besides the United States use the U.S. dollar as their official currency, a process known as official dollarization. For instance, Panama has been using the dollar alongside the Panamanian balboa as the legal tender since 1904 at a conversion rate of 1:1. Ecuador (2000), El Salvador (2001), and East Timor (2000) all adopted the currency independently. The former members of the U.S.-administered Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, which included Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands, chose not to issue their own currency after becoming independent, having all used the U.S. dollar since 1944. Two British dependencies also use the U.S. dollar: the British Virgin Islands (1959) and Turks and Caicos Islands (1973). The islands Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba adopted the dollar on January 1, 2011, as a result of the dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles.


There's the obvious downside that you lose the ability to print/mint your own currency but first world countries do it all on computers these days anyway.
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lolgaxe wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Samira wrote:
I would assume that if they disconnect from England
I'm picturing a big trench. Dig deep enough and they'll drift free and eventually bump into Norway.
Feasible.

Long Island, already being an island, still has not ridden the North Atlantic current into the Arctic Sea, more's the pity.
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#16 Sep 02 2014 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Why couldn't they?

They can. The more important question if if they can keep the North Sea oil. Although none of this matters much, it's about 85/15 they stay part of the UK.
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Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
I should have been more specific, what they want is a money union with the UK so they get some control over the pound sterling. This basically got laughed at from London but as far as I know it's still what they want. They don't seem to want the Euro because it wouldn't give them enough control over their currency nor do they want to start a new currency.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
I should have been more specific, what they want is a money union with the UK so they get some control over the pound sterling. This basically got laughed at from London but as far as I know it's still what they want. They don't seem to want the Euro because it wouldn't give them enough control over their currency nor do they want to start a new currency.
So they basically want all the benefits of having their own currency, but without doing any of the work?
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#19 Sep 02 2014 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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So they basically want all the benefits of having their own currency, but without doing any of the work?

They want the benefits of City of London without trying to make Edinburgh into some kind of world wide hub of capitalism. Which isn't that crazy. Given the choice between control of North Sea resources and control of Sterling, you can guarantee London would take the former instantly.
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someproteinguy wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
I should have been more specific, what they want is a money union with the UK so they get some control over the pound sterling. This basically got laughed at from London but as far as I know it's still what they want. They don't seem to want the Euro because it wouldn't give them enough control over their currency nor do they want to start a new currency.
So they basically want all the benefits of having their own currency, but without doing any of the work?
The campaign appears to be built mostly on loudly yelling "YES!", it's not the most sophisticated or well thought out idea.
#21 Sep 02 2014 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
I should have been more specific, what they want is a money union with the UK so they get some control over the pound sterling. This basically got laughed at from London but as far as I know it's still what they want. They don't seem to want the Euro because it wouldn't give them enough control over their currency nor do they want to start a new currency.
So they basically want all the benefits of having their own currency, but without doing any of the work?
The campaign appears to be built mostly on loudly yelling "YES!", it's not the most sophisticated or well thought out idea.

"YES WE CAN"...worked for Obama.
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#22 Sep 02 2014 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
The Yes voters still seem to think that they can just keep the pound sterling or something.

Why couldn't they? There's countries that use the US dollar as their currency. All currency is international; you can't just make someone not use yours.
I should have been more specific, what they want is a money union with the UK so they get some control over the pound sterling. This basically got laughed at from London but as far as I know it's still what they want. They don't seem to want the Euro because it wouldn't give them enough control over their currency nor do they want to start a new currency.
So they basically want all the benefits of having their own currency, but without doing any of the work?
The campaign appears to be built mostly on loudly yelling "YES!", it's not the most sophisticated or well thought out idea.

"YES WE CAN"...worked for Obama.
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#23 Sep 02 2014 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
Apparently one of the big issues is that England's nukes are currently in Scotland.... On some naval base or something.
#24 Sep 02 2014 at 7:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, shit, Scotland doesn't even NEED to have a vote then!
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#25 Sep 03 2014 at 7:12 AM Rating: Good
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I can barely get my power drill back from the neighbors, I can't imagine the headache nukes are going to cause.
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#26 Sep 03 2014 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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From what I understand the pro-independence folks don't want the nukes, but the brits called 'no backs!'.
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