A you trying to make me a feminist?Follow

If you didn't specifically speak out against it, then you're for it.

Can I specifically speak out against digg? Not about anything specific, just in general.

Frankly, if that's your takeaway from it, then I'm just really disappointed. Because if I didn't think you were worth educating, I wouldn't bother.

I'm gonna put my full hand on the table and say this - I cannot respect intelligent people who refuse to examine their own privilege and the systems that oppress other people. It comes across to me as being so incredibly callous, and I can't stand it. I deal with too much ********* I watch people I care about deal with too much ********* and I watch that ******** just grow over time.

Literally the only reason I'd bother with this conversation, instead of doing literally anything else, is because I believe you are worth my time, intelligent, and that you'd be able to see this if you hadn't buried yourself in an echo chamber. You weren't going to examine it otherwise, and I'm not particularly interested in losing my respect for you, so I tried.

But fine. You're literally not even interested in trying. So I'm out.



I said "we" for a reason.

Women are active players in maintaining patriarchy. You don't get removed from being a part of the mechanisms that reinforce male supremacy just because you're female - women are very actively part of the system. For instance, they're a HUGE part in how our children are educated, so when girls are taught to be quiet and respectful- aka "ladylike"- but boys are encouraged to be dominant and aggressive, women are usually the ones reinforcing those gender roles.

People act against their own interest all the time. That's why the Republican Party is still a thing.

We don't have any scientific evidence for biological processes that lead women to compete for male attention (and for most other animals, males compete for female attention). And we've looked.

Psychology definitely reinforces that idea, absolutely, but that's within the context of our culture. They aren't studying whether or not it's intrinsic, they're examining behaviors.

The argument of feminism is that, by placing social, political, and economic value almost entirely on men, human culture developed to the point where women were expected to win the game for male attention in most avenues of life. As romantic partners is the obvious one, since the importance of a woman (and therefore her power) was passed to her through her husband. But it also applies to all other forms of patronage.

Id.. I am not sure we live in the same universe. Because it is either that or you read some hs paper made by a starry eyed student hit by a ***** one time too many. It is really that difficult to tell which.

If you want to talk echo, I would like to direct you to your own post which can be roughly translated into:
U r mysogynist because you are wring and i m right
your position is invalid because u r mysoginist

Hello? Hello!

How are you today?

I'm going to don my tinfoil hat and say that the examples of random non-harassing greetings were thrown in there as bait to lure the naysayers in to attack the entire video. (Like the first suggested video at the end).

SpoilerIs it wrong to say she was asking for it, if she really was?

Some of the "Good morning" style remarks looked more like someone getting ready to panhandle or one was from a guy who looked like he was selling stuff. But much of it looked like "How you doin'?" remarks so I have far better things to do than litigate 10% of the comments she received.

But when I first heard of this I guess my reaction was "Ummm... oh." I mean, I don't catcall random women, I don't know anyone who does it, I guess the video did little for me than add another piece of information in my brain without really giving me a reason to concretely care about it. I can say "Gee, that's a shame" in an abstract way but then I also feel the same abstract detached pity for crippled children mining for diamonds in Sierra Leone.

Um.. no, the children there have something real to ***** about. She is whining cuz someone whistled in an inappropriate manner and called it harassment. Not an apt analogy.

Well, it wasn't an analogy so I guess you're right about it being a poor one.

Of his feelings, not the situations?

If you knew even 10% of my life, I'm pretty sure you'd understand why my response is thus:

Also, I'm the one in an echo chamber?

Well, at least we know the Democrats will retake Congress in 2016.