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#52 Oct 04 2014 at 9:05 AM Rating: Good
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I only see 4 ancients, and none of them are those. Haven't purchased any of them, since they didn't seem useful to the way I play. The boss one looks nice, but not at the expense of 10% dps.
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#53 Oct 04 2014 at 10:42 AM Rating: Good
You can re-roll the ancients to get a different selection. You can also purchase more than four, I've found. If you made some poor choices, you can respec them. I ended up purchasing a few I probably didn't need, but since I have three that I like, I probably won't respec them.

Edited, Oct 4th 2014 12:45pm by Catwho
#54 Oct 04 2014 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't purchased any; how do I see new selections? Do I have to ascend?
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#55 Oct 04 2014 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't purchased any; how do I see new selections? Do I have to ascend?


Every time you reroll (cost increases with the amount of ancients you've unlocked, and started at 1 Hero Soul) you get a new random assortment; four of the twenty-six. Unfortunately a lot of times you'll reroll the same ones again; it's not uncommon to get 3/4 identical to the previous selection. I just wasted 1000 souls trying to get something different Smiley: mad Apparently the devs are working on a fix for that in the next patch.

The list of Ancients is:

Siyalatas/Bonus idle DPS (25%/level up to level 10, 24% from 10-19, etc)
Libertas/Bonus idle Gold (25%/level up to level 10, 24% from 10-19, etc)
Vaagur/Reduced skill cooldown (-5%/level, cap -75%)
Atman/Increased Primal chance (1%/level, cap 25%)
Solomon/Bonus Primal Hero Souls (5%/level, diminishes starting at 100%)
Mammon /Bonus Gold dropped (5%/level)
Fragsworth/Bonus Click damage (20%/level)
Kumawakamaru/Monsters to next level (-1/level)
Bhaal/Bonus Critical damage (15%/level)
Mimzee/Bonus Gold from Treasure Chests (50%/level)
Dora/Increased Chests chance (20%/level)
Dogcog/Decreased Hero cost (-2%/level)
Fortuna/10x Gold Chance (.25%/level)
Argaiv/Increased Gilded bonus (2%/level)
Bubos/Decreased Boss Life (-2%/level)
Pluto/Bonus Gold from Golden Clicks (30%/level)
Berserker/Extended Powersurge (5s/level)
Energon/Extended Metal Detector (5s/level)
Chawedo/Extended Clickstorm (5s/level)
Sniperino/Extended Lucky Strikes (5s/level)
Hecatoncheir/Extended Super Click (5s/level)
Kleptos/Extended Golden Clicks (5s/level)
Chronos/Extended Boss Fight timers (5s/level)
Morgulis/Bonus Hero Soul DPS (11%/level)
Khrysos/Extra starting gold (1 hero's worth/level)
Thusia/Extra Treasure Chest health 100%

Thusia is worthless, as extra treasure chest health doesn't equal more gold. The extended length of ability ones seem to be of less value too. Idle ones are obviously amazing if you idle a lot, but have less use for an active player (idle status happens after 60 seconds of not clicking the screen, and it does work if you close the page).
#56 Oct 04 2014 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, might be worth mentioning: Treasure chests have a 1% chance to spawn, and primal bosses have a 25% chance to spawn after level 100 (every five levels).
#57 Oct 04 2014 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, idle sound glorious.
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#58 Oct 04 2014 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
Is it a 25% chance to spawn the first time you fight a boss on that level, or can the primal re-spawn if you park and farm there for a while?
#59 Oct 04 2014 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
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I can't imagine they'd respawn. Otherwise people would just park themselves and AFK at 110 forever.
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#60 Oct 04 2014 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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There appears to be two schools of thought on early ancients:

1. Idle bonus using Siya and Liber, or

2. Click Damage/Deep boss runs using Frag, Bhaal and Vaug

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#61 Oct 05 2014 at 4:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
Is it a 25% chance to spawn the first time you fight a boss on that level, or can the primal re-spawn if you park and farm there for a while?

First time you fight the boss; no respawns until the next ascension. If you "lose" (take longer than 30 seconds) they'll still be Primal when you go back. And every 100 levels is a guaranteed Hero Soul dropper called a Centurion.
#62 Oct 05 2014 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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A new patch is live.

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0.14 Patch Notes

- Cid’s click damage is now affected by Hero Souls.
- Cid’s cost is now affected by Dogcog.
- Offline gold calculation has been tweaked to be more accurate.
- Fixed a bug that caused Bubos to give double his described effect.
- You can now hold control to quick de-gild a hero.
- Ancient rerolls are now guaranteed to give as many new ancients as possible.
- Added “Time played” to Stats panel.


A change not mentioned in the notes is, if your gold is insufficient for a hero upgrade the fontcolor is now orange instead of red.


Cid is still too weak in the endgame. Don't know if she needs the x4/x10 multiplier or Gilds or both or something other. But she should not stay the way she is now.

Edited, Oct 5th 2014 7:59pm by TherealLogros
#63 Oct 06 2014 at 4:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just did an ascension (after failing miserably at level 170, with cooldowns Smiley: frown) and the bug which gives an extra Hero Soul each ascension is not fixed (yet).
#64 Oct 07 2014 at 10:30 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think that's a bug
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#65 Oct 09 2014 at 7:02 AM Rating: Good
I finally used one of my three free respecs. What I did was wait til I was at 140, respec, and then use the giant boost to push myself to 145. After I lost all my DPS I had to drop back down to 134 for more farming, though.

This time I was very careful to only obtain Siyalatas and Liba. 95% of my time "playing" that game is idle, so they really make sense for me. I'll probably just keep ascending over and over again until I get bored, then respec for all the DPS boosts until I hit level 160 and call it done.
#66 Oct 09 2014 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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Welp, I forgot that my CH account was on a Chrome profile I just deleted. SO I'M FREE!
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#67 Oct 09 2014 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Doh! I try to save at least once a day Smiley: frown
#68 Oct 09 2014 at 10:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Welp, I forgot that my CH account was on a Chrome profile I just deleted. SO I'M FREE!


Free to start over with a different Ancient-strategy.
#69 Oct 09 2014 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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I got bored with the game, to be honest. Cookie Clicker held my attention for longer, and with a top level of ~330, I kind of just stopped caring.

Edited, Oct 9th 2014 2:07pm by IDrownFish
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#70 Oct 12 2014 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still struggling to free myself of this horrible addiction. And so far, I'm losing. Since my progress is steady it might take a while till I can make myself stop.

My Ancients now are:

Argaiv level 5 (+10% gilded damage per Gild)
Bhaal level 5 (+75% critical click damage)
Mammon level 16 (+80% gold dropped)
Mimzee level 7 (+350% gold from chests) <- my favourite so far
Morgulis level 155 (+1705% DPS and click damage)
Solomon level 2 (+10% Primal hero Souls) <- I want to level this one next, but he's rather expensive

All in all 413 Hero Souls spent on Ancients, no excess Hero Souls since those go to Morgulis.


My gilded heros are: Brittany x2, Samurai x2, Forest Seer x1, Mercedes x1, Jerator x1, Amenhotep x2, Beastlord x1, Athena x1, Shinatobe x1 and Frostleaf x2

Best level 230.


The next patch brings two new Ancients, but I'm not very fond of those.



Edit: Used a completely wrong word. Typing while on the phone is hard.

Edited, Oct 12th 2014 3:28pm by TherealLogros
#71 Oct 12 2014 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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Looks like you should be getting Fragsworth and one of the new ancients, Juggernaught i think. Dora too.
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#72 Oct 12 2014 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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Looks like you should be getting Fragsworth and one of the new ancients, Juggernaught i think. Dora too.
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#73 Oct 12 2014 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
Just a note that the "idle" DPS/money bonus kicks in even if you're actively leveling heroes. It's only cancelled if you click for damage or use cooldowns.

By carefully timing my purchases on the latest reroll, I was able to get from level 1-110 without using ANY cooldowns, thanks to level 8 on Siya and Libertas, and level 12 on Dogcog, with 43 hero souls in the bank. This is my 2nd ascension today. Play time on the one earlier was only four hours. Play time on current one is 32 minutes.

Those idle boosts are insane.

Edited, Oct 12th 2014 8:19pm by Catwho
#74 Oct 13 2014 at 3:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like you should be getting Fragsworth and one of the new ancients, Juggernaught i think. Dora too.


Fragsworth is one of the Ancients of my next batch. But Vaagur is also there, which makes the decision slightly harder. Juggernaught only really shines when utilized with an autoclicker I think. And I refuse to use one of those.

The idle Ancients are very strong but not very appealing to me. I played with them first and then used one of the 3 free respecs to get away from them to my current setup.
#75 Oct 15 2014 at 5:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Another small patch has arrived and brings us two new Ancients plus changes to an existing one.

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Added two new ancients: Iris and Juggernaut!

Scaled up Hero Soul Cost for summoning the last few ancients.

Thusia (+% treasure chest life) now only affects treasure chests when Golden Clicks is active.

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Nothing I'm too excited about but it's nice to see the game constantly evolving.
#76 Oct 15 2014 at 6:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Juggernaut + auto-clicker = AMAZING DPS boost. I'm trying to figure out how often you need to click to build the combo; I think it's once every 5 seconds. I played around with it a bit this morning, and definitely noticed a big increase.

I'm getting to the mid-late game (highest floor 1200), and have regilded to only two heroes (Ivan and Masked Samurai). I'll probably put them all in Samurai in the next couple of days... and then move them all to Frostleaf once I get Samurai near the cap. The game still has some life left to it for me, though my game is mostly "Level to about 15k Hero Souls (usually level 900-1000), ascend, spend souls in an ancient like Bhaal, Fragsworth, Agraiv, Juggernaut or Solomon, repeat." Still, each time is quicker, and I still am having fun with it! Smiley: grin
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