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#27 Sep 22 2014 at 6:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Damn... the update makes this game incredibly addicting. I spent several hours playing over the weekend; unlocked 4 ancients. Still not sure which ones are the best, but it bites that the ones that get summoned are random and it costs heroic souls to reroll. I have a general rule of thumb that I'll put half the souls from my last game into the permanent +11% DPS buff, and spend the rest as I see fit. With that, the -cooldown and the +gold ancients, I'm almost back up to the same gold buff as before, and higher than ever with the DPS buff.

Interestingly, two of the ancients cater to "idle" gameplay, where you do more damage/farm more gold if you aren't actively playing the game. This seems to be a perfect counter to auto-clickers, or so it appears to me. I may invest in those two next... if they show up.
#28 Sep 23 2014 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah thanks. Smiley: mad Started Clicker Heroes again...

There goes my productivity.
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TherealLogros wrote:
Yeah thanks. Smiley: mad Started Clicker Heroes again...

There goes my productivity.

...and your wrist.
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#30 Sep 26 2014 at 6:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Made it to level 140 and beat it before my first ascension. My 40 Hero Souls are fully invested in Ancients at this point. I'm pretty sure that my HS allocation is not optimal but I don't care.
I have 5 gilded heroes and can't wait to get more. Is there another way besides beating a higher bosslevel than before to get those?

The additions to the game since I last played are extremely nice. I'm now officially addicted. And some kind of Hero Soul skill tree seems to be in order for the next patch.
#31 Sep 26 2014 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
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I've ascended 28 times, usually get to about level 300 now. The Ancients I have are Cooldown Lv Maxed(75% CD reduction), Hero cost Lv Max (-50% gold to buy/level), More primal Souls (Level 7 35% extra), Extra click dmg (200%), Extra crit dmg 105%.

I usually try to keep around 70~100 souls for their bonus dmg.
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#32 Sep 27 2014 at 5:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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A new patch is here:

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0.13 Patch Notes

- Siyalatas and Libertas scale down from 25% to 15% as you level them up, by 1% every 10 levels.
- Numbers now display in scientific notation after Vigintillion.
- Quick Ascension premium now is maximum 5000 Hero Souls.
- Added option to always use scientific notation.
- Added button to purchase all affordable hero upgrades on bottom of your hero list. Visible after you’ve ascended at least twice.
- Added more achievements.
- Added a level x25 hotkey for leveling heroes.
- Added quick level keys for ancients.


The nerf to the idle ancients doesn't affect me since I didn't like how they affected my usage of skills and therefore didn't use them. Some people seem pretty upset about it though.
#33 Sep 27 2014 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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132 HS, L9 Siya/Lib L15 Vaug. 5 ascend, top level 300.
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#34 Sep 28 2014 at 4:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ascended for the third time. I can now burn through the first ~60 levels pretty fast, with only a second here and there of downtime.

Have gained 62 Hero Souls so far and they all are invested in Ancients.

Level 5 Argaiv, for +10% gilded damage bonus (per gild)
Level 6 Mammon, for +30% gold dropped
Level 22 Morgulis, for +242% damage

My gilded heros are: Brittany, Samurai, Jerator, Amenhotep and Shinatobe (all x1).

I don't degild and I suspect my Hero Soul allocation to be rather bad, but I'm enjoying myself. So I got that going for me...
#35 Sep 28 2014 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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If you want to figure out the optimal ancient/soul allocation, check dis out:

http://repl.it/0B1/35
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#36 Sep 29 2014 at 1:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah I saw a similar link on Reddit. Or maybe it was the same. But I spent so much time in the last years trying to have the optimal build in WoW, I'd rather just play and enjoy the ride this time.
If I progress a bit slower that's okay for me. Smiley: nod
#37 Oct 01 2014 at 6:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I noticed that while ascending I always get 1 Hero Soul more than I should. Not that I have a problem with that. I'm still at a stage where this helps.

Everyone else experiencing this?
#38 Oct 01 2014 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Yup.
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#39 Oct 01 2014 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
Yup as well. Not complaining either.

Just before I ascend I go on a major leveling binge for the lower guys, trying to eke out one more hero soul. Aiming for 16,000 total levels this current round.

My major slowdown seems to happen about level 135-140. The last hero's levels are just so darn expensive that getting him to put out any more power is impossible I'm hoping that if I build up a couple hundred hero souls I'll get the DPS needed to move past that. So I'm getting to 140, farming a bunch, then ascending.
#40 Oct 01 2014 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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I was hitting the same wall. My advice would be to try and get the Vaagur ancient (cooldown reduction) and spam Energize/Dark Ritual. Currently working on level 275 with only 24 souls and a maxed out Vaagur.
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#41 Oct 01 2014 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
My major slowdown seems to happen about level 135-140. The last hero's levels are just so darn expensive that getting him to put out any more power is impossible I'm hoping that if I build up a couple hundred hero souls I'll get the DPS needed to move past that. So I'm getting to 140, farming a bunch, then ascending.


That's where my runs end, too. Depending on luck with primal bosses I get between 10 and 18 Hero Souls. Currently I focus on upgrading Mammon (+ Gold) and any leftover souls go to Morgulis (+ Damage).

Edited, Oct 1st 2014 12:39pm by TherealLogros
#42 Oct 02 2014 at 11:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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TherealLogros wrote:
Catwho wrote:
My major slowdown seems to happen about level 135-140. The last hero's levels are just so darn expensive that getting him to put out any more power is impossible I'm hoping that if I build up a couple hundred hero souls I'll get the DPS needed to move past that. So I'm getting to 140, farming a bunch, then ascending.


That's where my runs end, too. Depending on luck with primal bosses I get between 10 and 18 Hero Souls. Currently I focus on upgrading Mammon (+ Gold) and any leftover souls go to Morgulis (+ Damage).


I'm pretty far along (highest level 480), and I still hit a slowdown at about 140-150. It has shrunk though; a lot of things help:

-Gilded Treebeast or Frostleaf.
-Cost reduction Ancient (Dogcog), which reduces upgrade costs by 50% at max level.
-Lots of Hero Souls (or Morgulis)

Usually only takes me a minute or two now to jump the hump from Frostleaf to level 1000 Treebeast. Used to require usage of my cooldowns to get there in a timely manner.

Current ancients:
Atman (max, +25% chance of Primal Boss spawn)
Dogcog (max, -50% cost to buy/upgrade heroes)
Vaagur (max, -75% cooldown reduction)
Fragsworth (21, +420% click damage)
Mammon (20, +100% gold drop)
Morgulis (1054, +11,594% DPS... I drop all my extra souls in here instead of keeping them on hand)

Highest gilded heroes are Ivan (7), Bobby (7), and Mercedes (5). I've rerolled my heroes enough that only the 450% DPS modified ones are gilded.

Debating pumping more souls into Morgulis and trying for level 500, or wasting them on Ancient rerolls to get something useful like Solomon (+Primal drop amount), Bhaal (+Crit damage), Mimzee (bonus gold from treasure chests) or Dora (+chance of treasure chest). Right now my current roll is all the +cooldown power lengths... and it costs 23 souls just to reroll Smiley: glare

I also learned that if you reset your ancient selections you do NOT get back the souls spent on rerolling ancients. Doh; I've probably spent about a hundred or two...

Edited, Oct 2nd 2014 2:00pm by LockeColeMA
#43 Oct 02 2014 at 12:02 PM Rating: Excellent
I also figured out why Progress mode is there. After you ascend and you're flying through those early levels, it lets you focus on leveling people up as fast as you can click them rather than having to stop and change levels every 10 seconds.
#44 Oct 02 2014 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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Wait what is this progress mode thing? That would be very useful. Is it in the options?
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#45 Oct 02 2014 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
It's a toggle on the right hand side, at the very bottom. Toggle between Progress/Farming. Farming is a leather boot, Progress is an armored one with wings (I think.) Smack Progress until your leveling slows down to reasonable levels, then switch back to farming until you can afford the boosts to get you to the next gear again.
#46 Oct 03 2014 at 4:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
I also learned that if you reset your ancient selections you do NOT get back the souls spent on rerolling ancients. Doh; I've probably spent about a hundred or two...


I've only earned 154 so far. Smiley: eek They are all invested in Ancients though since I also play with Morgulis.

I already have Bhaal (Level 1). Not sure if he is good in the early stages of the game I'm still in. That's why I haven't bothered to level him yet.
#47 Oct 03 2014 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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LockeColeMA wrote:
I also learned that if you reset your ancient selections you do NOT get back the souls spent on rerolling ancients. Doh; I've probably spent about a hundred or two...


I've only earned 154 so far. Smiley: eek They are all invested in Ancients though since I also play with Morgulis.

I already have Bhaal (Level 1). Not sure if he is good in the early stages of the game I'm still in. That's why I haven't bothered to level him yet.


I noticed a huge boost when I unlocked Solomon (combined with maxed Atman). I just hit level 300 in my current run, for example, and could ascend for 317 souls. If I soldier on to level 400 (which may take a couple hours), I'll likely have 700-800. It starts to snowball, it seems!

So yeah, Solomon was my newest, and definitely worth it. Sorta regretting Morgulis, although he works as a good deterrent from spending so many souls that your DPS modifier plummets to nothing. Next up is Mimzee, but she is 125 souls to unlock at this point. Going to have to be quite discriminating with my next couple of unlocks...
#48 Oct 03 2014 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
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It's like you're all speaking a completely different language to me, and I've been playing the game...

Though I tend to rely mostly on passive dps.
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#49 Oct 03 2014 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure whose talking about which game. There are at least two clicky games being discussed.

Can't ever go wrong with massive dps.

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#50 Oct 03 2014 at 4:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory wrote:
It's like you're all speaking a completely different language to me, and I've been playing the game...

Though I tend to rely mostly on passive dps.

Idle players want Siyalatas and Libertas (bonus DPS and gold while idle). They are widely considered the best Ancients if you aren't auto-clicking or playing for hours a day. Then Atman and Solomon (More chance of Primal bosses/more hero soul drops from primal bosses).

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I'm not sure whose talking about which game. There are at least two clicky games being discussed.

Smiley: laugh

Still Clicker Heroes. The latest patch revamped the prestige system; you can now spend Hero Souls to buy and upgrade 26 different Ancients.

As an update, finally hit level 500 (achievement, ho!). Might get a few more multiple multiples of 10 (530 or so seems like a decent goal) to build up some more Gilded Heroes. I also unlocked Agraiv (+Gilded Hero DPS) and Mimzee (+gold from Treasure Chest). I really like Agraiv, but Mimzee is a little underwhelming until I unlock Dora (+Treasure chest spawn rate). That will be my next... that or Bhaal (+crit click damage). Those are all the ones I really want Smiley: grin
#51 Oct 03 2014 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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