Cash shop announced?Follow

Most of it's pretty cheap. I think the most expensive thing they announced the price of was Fantasia at 10 bucks if you buy them one at a time. I assume Slepnier will be around 20 or 25, but they didn't actually announce that.

I have no problem with cash shop cosmetic stuff as long as:
A: It keeps itself to cosmetic stuff and
B: It isn't at the cost of having cool cosmetic stuff from in-game rewards

Blizzard's been getting itself into trouble with that second one lately. Their most original mounts are showing up in the store and not on in-game sources, and it's starting to earn them some backlash. So just avoid doing that and we're probably fine.

As long is it's not pay-to-win I have no problem with it. If someone wants to pay real money for a minion or a fancy mount, who cares?

That's an excuse, not a reason.

It's bad marketing, especially when non-paying members cannot obtain the same item. Most of the things we PLAY for are esthetics and pretty looks, actual gear we have done in a week, after that, myself especially, am only here for mounts, minions and pretty looking clothes.

It frustrates me endlessly, but the alternatives to fix it arent much better.

1) You could let people buy it with real money, and let them put it on the boards for gil. But this will quickly give gil a real world money value.
2) Go free to play and they can have all the cash shop they want. But the quality of a F2P game is going to make this a horrible experience.
3) You could let people buy it with real money, and have a vendor sell it for Gil or give it to you after a long (beastmen) questline. This would be the least objectionable way.

Given SE's poor track record at giving us new stuff they didnt simply blatantly recolour, this is going to BADLY affect what we have ingame. Just look at CT gear or Soldiery. Staves, Robes, there's only like 3 diffirent models with a diffirent texture skin over all of those. If SE is already this lazy (and is getting away with it), imagine how bad it would be if they put all their original ideas behind a $$$-lock and let the (still monthly paying members, certainly not f2p, i point out to you) people obtain the scraps and recolours.

I like the game, but greedy crap like this would easily kill it for me.

Edited, Oct 20th 2014 8:14am by KojiroSoma

You arent very good at reading. Nowhere am i making a comparison to other MMO's. I dont care about other MMO's. If World of Warcraft to name an example hasnt gotten anything at all in a year and we got some additions, why would i care that World of Warcraft has it worse than us? I'm not playing that.

Final Fantasy XIV is all i'm discussing. And their armors lately have been nothing short of recolors with the same base-model. I would call that lazy. Anyone would. Bard and Dragoon gear from CT are exactly the same. Monk and BLM soldiery gear is exactly the same. Staves are just shades for the most part. Spears get a diffirent colored handle. All cuirass share the same model except for the shoulders. All low level robes share the same model. i100 from ST are pretty lazy copy's of the monsters in there. There's sticking to a "theme" and there's 1:1 using the body/legs/hands/feet/head model for it.

The most likely follow-up to that, as clearly shown in the OP with the sleipnir mount, is that original work is going to be locked behind a "optional" pay option if we let them get away with this, and we will continue to get the lazy re-colors of existing gear we've been getting. IF, and only if, the quality and quantity of our gear additions isnt going to suffer from this as well since they have more work to do now.

I am of the belief, and so should you, that original gear should be obtainable by us regardless of extra costs. We're already paying for the game each month already. Why you're suddenly advocating paying extra for things that should be obtainable by us all is beyond me.

Just in case you did not understand, I am pointing out how out of reality your standards are by pointing out the actual reality of the state of affairs. You not making any comparisons, not the least to the actual reality outside your personal unrealistic standards, is the point of my post. <insert a poor jab of your reading comprehension here>

SE offers the best value for buck in the industry as far as original content is concerned. That they do not go even beyond that and meet your unrealistic expectations is too bad for you, yet I don't know why anyone should care.

Perhaps by actually caring about what the competition is doing, makes you appreciate what SE is doing for us - it's not like they are personally indebted to you to make less money than the competition.

Edited, Oct 20th 2014 2:38pm by Hyanmen

I feel bad that someone drives around in a Lexus that I can't afford, when the car I can afford is perfectly suitable for my lifestyle. The auto industry needs to make a Lexus as attainable as a Saturn.

MMOs should be a level playing field where ability and dedication set players apart not how much disposable income they have IRL. Most of us play games for enjoyment and to escape, albeit briefly, from the many pressures our day to day lives already provide. In a game where appearance is arguably the real advancement in the game I can understand player concern over the introduction of a cash shop.

Edited, Oct 20th 2014 3:13pm by Releaser

Maybe some of us simply don't like act as if a switch has been suddenly turned on which was off before. We have been given neat in-game stuff and services with rl cash since the days of 1.0. You were not on the barricades when people around you were hopping on their fat capitalist chocobos yet now suddenly the devil has descended on Eorzea?

Uhhh, these demarcations are already in the game, and many other video games. What else do you call Collector's Editions and people who get exclusive items for shelling out more cash? You could even argue the fans who can take plane trips across the world to fanfests and get codes for exclusive items are "more rich" as well.

I also hope anything in the shop is somehow available in the game. The cash shop could still be profitable for those who'd rather take a shortcut to get a cool weapon skin or mount.

I also won't terribly mind if there are exclusive vanity items that can only be bought in the shop, but ONLY if there are still plenty of equally cool vanity items in the game. I don't want this turning into Guild Wars 2, where, for the longest time, you had no choice but to buy from the cash shop to have any kind of cool-looking gear.

This is already P2P, so anything in the shop should be available at some point in the game.

Actually if the stuff was available in game too like you said Thayos I would be cool with it then..

Here is the real problem... If these things are successful and they make allot of money, things that should be available in game wont be they will add them to the cash shop instead.. Cool glamor items = cash shop, New minions = cash shop, new event items = cash shop etc. Its a dirty road.

Letting someone quest the items instead then I am ok with it like you said..

Honestly I am more surprised at how many people seem fairly okay with it (considering what has been said before in for example the retainer thread) than I am with the announcement itself. In the end I will just wait to see how they implement it, but like Callinon mentioned it is a slippery slope.